M2TW Should have sea battle expansion!

**Galain_Ironhide** · 08-24-2007, 00:00

I've just had a look at E:TW and seeming that they are able to create sea battles in that game, I think CA should come up with an expansion pack (like Kingdoms) for M2TW that includes sea battles. Obviously that would take a lot of their time and money (and lot more memory on your computer) but I think it would be worth it.

What does everyone think?

**Matt_Lane** · 08-24-2007, 00:09

Originally Posted by Galain_Ironhide

I've just had a look at E:TW and seeming that they are able to create sea battles in that game, I think CA should come up with an expansion pack (like Kingdoms) for M2TW that includes sea battles. Obviously that would take a lot of their time and money (and lot more memory on your computer) but I think it would be worth it.

What does everyone think?

Yeah, it would be great but it won't happen. MTW2 is from CA Oz whilst ETW is coming from CA UK. Also ETW is having a brand new engine to power those over sized dingies. The Empire game needs the naval aspect for the construction of its empires, whereas I think it would be more of a side show in MTW2, although a damn fine side show at that. Personally I'd rather they spent their / our money on getting Kingdoms right.

**Galain_Ironhide** · 08-24-2007, 03:28

Yeah I know it will never happen. But just think of the new depth the game would take!
I know I'd start to take a better interest in controlling the seas rather than at times sticking to the land (referring to my RTW experiences).

I hope that once CA move to E:TW as their prime project,and then finally move past it, that they come back to the medieval / Roman era games and make them with these types of options. I'm not really a fan of the 1700's, 1800's era. Mind you though, I will still probably buy the game, as long as I don't need a super computer to play it!

**crpcarrot** · 08-24-2007, 09:55

de ja vu

anyone remember the same sentiments when MTW was out but as wel all know its not going to be implemented as it is a whole new software

however medieval seabattles were not as exciting as the later time period i think there was a discussion about this long time ago.

**tarbanrael** · 08-24-2007, 10:15

Agree with the previous statement, it will be a completely different game engine for ETW. If the screenshots are anything to go by, I'd say we'll need to upgrade our graphic cards...

**icek** · 08-24-2007, 11:26

I got another de ja vu. When bi came out there was a fast announcement of m2tw and everyone almost forgot about expansion to rome just to have a new tw game.

**Fookison** · 08-26-2007, 05:31

I always wondered why we could not do real sea battles in RTW and MTW2. I guess, it is about game engines, graphic cards and the almighty $$$.....

**sapi** · 08-26-2007, 08:18

Well, there's an incredible amount of work necessary to get a working model of the sea; so it's not something that could be tossed in in an expansion pack, nor, I guess, something that was economical when this engine was being developed...

**Ethelred Unread** · 08-26-2007, 09:27

1 longboat vs 1 cog isn't going to be a good battle however good the engine is.

I'm happy to wait for empires for sea battles, though Rome would probably benefit more from an expansion. Actium anyone?

**phonicsmonkey** · 08-27-2007, 04:13

Yes, I'm hoping they go back over RTW once Empire is done (with the obligatory expansion pack ("E:TW; Colonies"?) - I'd love to recreate some of the sea battles of the Punic Wars

**sapi** · 08-27-2007, 11:24

I doubt that an ancient-themed game would be ideal on an engine optimised for gunpowder warfare...

**ReiseReise** · 08-27-2007, 14:40

This would be practically impossible. Speaking of any game in general, an expansion is just a mod of the existing game - new maps, units, characters, campaigns, etc that just modify the data files and maybe a few new small features that require very little coding of the engine. In general, the most coding you will see in an expansion is the addition of multiplayer, and we already have that so..... Adding naval battles would require an entirely new battle engine, probably separate from the land battles in order to preserve them in their current form. That amount of work would never be done as an expansion because they would never recoup their expenses at the $30 price tag and limited sales potential (they will sell far fewer copies of the expansion than they sold of the original). They are not going to do it "for the fans." This is a business; the only thing that matters is the bottom line. They are people with families to feed, and the executives have Porsches to buy.

Also, they are moving on to Empires, which I believe is a total rewrite of the game, so anything they did for an expansion would be unusable. Why create naval battles as a shoddy add-on that will make people say "these naval battles suck why would i buy empires", and then do it all over again for Empires, when you can do it once and put all your efforts into it and get it right in a game that was actually designed for it.

My 2 cents, thanks for reading.