Regicide

[ixidor]

Ok, i was ready myself to taking Genoa, as you are seing in the map, an this mission appears:

So know the faction heir is asking me to kill his father... And the most relevant of this, i am with war with the french (even though it was them who attacked my ships without provocation). Now i think i will actually kill the king, because:
- 5000 florins is still a good price for a regicide
- the king is in toulouse, a fortress that i intent to capture in the next turns, since i intend to go to war against France now that i am about to destroy Milan (i attacked them, the Papal States allied in the attack, Milan is excomnicated, i do a crusade to Milan after capturing Florence and Genoa, Milan is no more) and control all Italy by capturing Venice.

Now guys, have you ever got one of these before? It's my first one to be honest.

[Akka]

Yes.
Beware, though : to be validated, you need to kill him with an assassin. Killing him in battle/siege won't complete the mission (if the King dies for another reason than your assassin succeeding, the mission will simply be cancelled without ill effect).

[Zenicetus]

Yep, I got that mission once (also playing as Spain). Didn't manage to pull it off though, because like Ixidor says, it has to be an assassination. I had a top-rated assassin, but the French king had very high anti-assassin traits... like maybe he had a few failed attempts by other factions before I got there.

It's a shame you can't team up your assassins for a hit, to boost the odds. Anyway, good luck!

[DVX BELLORVM]

I also received a similar mission a few times, but never managed to accomplishe it. You'll need a very skillfull assassin.

Remember that each time your assassin fails, the target might acquire some "anti-assassin" traits, making future attempts ever harder.

Good luck...

[Zarky]

If you want to end the war with the French, and don´t mind little cheating leave Toulouse to French, it´s good buffer anyways and save/load until you succeed. Don´t bother trying if changes are less than 30 since it would take for ever.

[Benandorf]

Why is it always the French who ask for this?

Regardless, I'd say go for it if you have a good assassin, or if you don't/they are very small, ignore it and just finish them off and be done with it. The French can be a HUGE threat later on as spain if you don't take them our quickly. Well, as big as any non-asian (Mongols, Timurids) threat can be to Spain.

[imnothere]

i got it ALL the time. regardless of any fraction - french, milan, egypt, spanish, HRE, Moors and Venice. even if i have only 1 or hardly any assassin (when playing as Milan, my merchants formed the spearhead of my attacking armies!). I think the only reason why the other fractions hasnt ask me is due to distance, which could be the trigger for the "assassin" event.

good grief, do i looks like a hire-blade? at least be more polite and take me to dinner first. *turn up nose and pretend to be offended*

[Bob the Insane]

The mission are dynamically issued based on your ability to carry them out...

To get assasination missions you need to have assassins out their doing business. If you don't bother with assasins then you will not see the missions.

[ixidor]

Yeah, the problem is that, right now, i only have an assassin with 8 in subterfuge, since the other one was killed trying to assassinate milan's faction leader (a waste since i destroyed them already). The chances are like 25% or something. I will see. I hope he increase his skill until he got there but the king has actually good command and all so it gonna be hard...

[_Tristan_]

Regicide missions are the only really difficult missions in the game... Anyway, they are only worth it if you're after the money because palying on Hard setting, I've yet to notice the improvement in the relationships with the asking faction.

Assassins may be put to better use than getting killed trying to eliminate a faction leader (if you can spare the bonus cash...)

[ixidor]

Well, i don't really need the money since i took now all Italy (Venice is the exception and it will soon be mine anyway), and together with my very lucrative Peninsula plus all the money that came from Timbuktu the money is not an issue at all, but i thought it would be fun to try it. After all, i don't intend to kill the Pope anytime soon (he is pretty friendly to me, i nfact he is Spanish) so even if my assassin gets kill is not much of problem since i am recruting some new ones right now.

[_Tristan_]

Well, you might still consider the consequences on your Faction Leader's Dread since each assassination attempt might give you some unwanted dread (depending on your style of play...)

[Bob the Insane]

Regicide missions are the only really difficult missions in the game... Anyway, they are only worth it if you're after the money because palying on Hard setting, I've yet to notice the improvement in the relationships with the asking faction.

Yeah, it would be more worth the effort if it gave a ceasefire as well as the improvment in relations.

Assassins may be put to better use than getting killed trying to eliminate a faction leader (if you can spare the bonus cash...)

Agreed, a maxed out assassin can cut through your opponent's agents and junior faction members like a hot knife through butter...

[gardibolt]

I just got one of these against the Russian King; alas, I accidentally killed him in battle.

[Budwise]

Can someone (CA please jump in) please explain how to pass an assasination mission you must assinate the guy in question. How come is it that you can't just kill him in battle?

If CA was trying missions to try other tactics, then I wish they would have added other mission types like (CA, THIS IS AN AWESOME IDEA) a priest mission to convert a general or Imal (muslim priest, I know its mispelled) to christianity. With this done, the Imal will in turn start converting to christianity as well.

Also, spys could have a few missions of their own but back to my point. Assasins should be able to have a sabotage mission as well. That way, it would add badly needed depth to the game. I am rambling now but please bring back Glorious Achievements as well.

[Bob the Insane]

Well I am only postulating but it would be hard for the heir to justify improving relations with you if you had just knocked off his dad in open conflict...

But if dad had a dagger cleaning related accident, well that is another matter altogether...

[sapi]

Can someone (CA please jump in) please explain how to pass an assasination mission you must assinate the guy in question. How come is it that you can't just kill him in battle?

Because the prince wants to take power and improve relations with you. He can't very well do that if the public are up in arms over his father's death in combat to the vile enemy, you

[imnothere]

isnt't the deceased's killer unknown(supposingly) - like your own character(s) when being assassinated? so in theory the new fraction leader can make up excuses and improve relations? or at least more prone to ceasefire type diplomacy?

i've had AI suddenly gone mad with me on assassins. got two characters (one diplomat, one general) sent to heaven already. another was driven mad (paranoid +3 or something) before i send him to die, hence the pink elephants assault picture that i took earlier on. not counting a few deaths by the inquisitions before my overly pious armies hug those inquisitors to death (blocking 8-hexes method).

didn't happened in all my previous games. turtling or rampaging.

[rvg]

These missions aren't that hard to pull off... the key is to remember that quantity beats quality any day. Each assassin, no matter how bad he is has a minimum 5% chance of offing his target.
Get 25-30 assassins ready, and use them all to attack the target on the same turn. There's a good chance that one of them will succeed and voila: mission accomplished.

[_Tristan_]

These missions aren't that hard to pull off... the key is to remember that quantity beats quality any day. Each assassin, no matter how bad he is has a minimum 5% chance of offing his target.
Get 25-30 assassins ready, and use them all to attack the target on the same turn. There's a good chance that one of them will succeed and voila: mission accomplished.

Will the cost ever match the reward ?

Personnally, I don't think so...

And that's without considering the time needed to train those assassins or the uselessness of rec queues during that time...

[crpcarrot]

[QUOTE=Budwise]

If CA was trying missions to try other tactics, then I wish they would have added other mission types like (CA, THIS IS AN AWESOME IDEA) a priest mission to convert a general or Imal (muslim priest, I know its mispelled) to christianity. With this done, the Imal will in turn start converting to christianity as well.

QUOTE]

umm the correct spelling is Imam but i didnt know thye could be converted in the first place!!! can u do that and how?

[Crash]

Wow, what a great idea - giving missions to priests, cardinals, spies, etc. What about the human player offering bribes to other factions agents to carry out missions? Man - what drama!