Faction symbols

[Vorian]

I've always wondered what's epeiros' symbol... it looks like a weird...dog?

Molossian hounds were famous in Greece for being excellent guards and help in the hunt. They were used all over and it's said they were so big that battled with boars and kept away wolves and leopards.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Plus they come from that region (Epeiros) *and* they are found, distinctively, on Epeirote poleis' coinage. It was that or a bearded face of Zeus (the one you see on the Epeirote general's or captain's standards) and we felt this was much more unique and appropriate.

[Hooahguy]

wow- i just boosted my history knowledge by a lot today- wow- i had no idea about the faction symbols- i knew they came from either gods or artifacts from their areas, but i had no idea the specifics!

[keravnos]

Of course there is anothe famous symbol for Epeiros, the Charging bull, but that is the emblem of "Koinon of Epeiros" which was formed 50 years later than the start date.

As such Molossian hound is perfect, as Molossians were the "top dog" among Epeiros tribes (if you pardon the pun) and whose King' Pyrrhos marked the most glorious time of Epeiros (or Apeiros as the Apeirotai called their land in their version of Dorian greek)

[antiochus epiphanes]

if im not mistaken, the symbol for Arche Seleukia, was a minature inverted anchor that seleukos carried around as a goodluck charm, or somthing like what we call "keychains" today.

[option]

The Roman legionary eagle and Macedonian Vergina sun are obvious, and I've seen the Seleucid and Carthaginian symbols on plenty of coins, but where do the other faction symbols come from? Also, why are there two different Lusotanna symbols?

[Fluvius Camillus]

The Roman legionary eagle and Macedonian Vergina sun are obvious, and I've seen the Seleucid and Carthaginian symbols on plenty of coins, but where do the other faction symbols come from? Also, why are there two different Lusotanna symbols?

The Hayasdan symbol is wrong, it is from a later timeframe of another ruling dynasty. However, there was no symbol found about the EB starting timeframe, so they used one from later times.

The EB Hayasdan are ruled by the Orontids, the house of Yervanduni.

The used symbol is from the Artaxiad dynasty, around the time Lucullus fights Tigranes.

~Fluvius

[/Bean\]

Uh...I know Epeiros depicts the Mollosson hound...there's a nice little story about that. I don't know whether they used it because it was a used symbol or because it was an Epirite legend thingymajig.

The Ptolemoi...you get that kinda bird in Egypt (its a hawk or something)...

I don't really have a clue what I'm talking about...I just wanted to join in...

[Fluvius Camillus]

The Aedui boar is of course the boar that is eaten by Oberlix at every feast..

~Fluvius

[Moros]

The Ptolemoi...you get that kinda bird in Egypt (its a hawk or something)...

An Eagle... Very popular symbol in Egypt and surroundings. Probably the most common picture on a Ptolemaic coin.

[/Bean\]

Yeah I know...durr. That's common knowledge around here, Moros.

[abou]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...action+symbols

[Fluvius Camillus]

I will copy what I said in an other thread about this:

The Hayasdan symbol is wrong, it is from a later timeframe of another ruling dynasty. However, there was no symbol found about the EB starting timeframe, so they used one from later times.

The EB Hayasdan are ruled by the Orontids, the house of Yervanduni.

The used symbol is from the Artaxiad dynasty, around the time Lucullus fights Tigranes.

~Fluvius

[Skullheadhq]

whaoh you revived an old thread here

[Olaf The Great]

There's another thread with the same name that's a tad bit recent, it was probably an accident to necro this thread.

EDIT:And this thread was linked to this one, causing people to bump this one in response.

Maybe it should be sticky'd

[Andronikos]

Hayasdan's symbol is taken from the crown of Tigran II the Great, and is was the royal symbol of the Artaxiad Dynasty. Technically it is not correct, as it has no place in Orontid Armenia, which is our start-date, but it was made before I joined the team and I haven't been able to find another more suitable icon for Hayasdan yet. I will though, you'll probably see a change in EB2.

Foot

The EB team knows it. ;-)

[Fluvius Camillus]

But this thread has answers to the other thread of people who know about it. It was my intention to bring this thread back up, because this anwers almost the complete other thread's question.

~Fluvius

[Jebivjetar]

Makedonian symbol: it's called Vergina sun : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergina_Sun

For Carthaginian symbol, AFAIR, on the forum exist one thread where one guy did put a link on the site showing some Carthaginian coin: the head used on EB faction banner seems to be from that coin.

[Reality=Chaos]

I was under the impression the swastica was a more Celtic symbol, and was adopted by the Germanic tribes because of the Celtic influence?

AFAIk the swatika is an Indian symbol that was during the nazi time attributed to the early germans and then adopted by the NSDAP

[Watchman]

Jeez. Your wiki-fu is weak, boys. *Extremely* widespread and popular symbol.
The Nazis were just poseur faggots who pilfered every cool thing they could find.

[Moros]

Well apparantly the Saba icon isn't really explained yet.
As abou said it's not just some horned animal, it's an ibex which weren't only common there it was also the animal of Almaqah (or in sabaic inscriptions: 'LMQH, 'LMQHW). This was the main god of the Sabaeans. But it was also the one thing that bound the Sabaeans and the other communities together. The god and temples of Almaqah which not only played an important role in Religion but also in politics, law,... It was almost the cement holding the Sabaean state together. Of course it being the animal and depiction of Almaqah it's the most common element in Sabaic art. From architecture, tools, stèles,...almost everything.

Hence the obvious choice.

[Andronikos]

Ok, so I googled a little and found this:

Sucellus was depicted carrying a long-handed hammer and a cauldron, suggesting that those who invoked his name, either ask him for protection or provision.

Arduinna was the Gallic goddess of the forest and hunting, which the Romans had identified her with Diana (Artemis). Arduinna had been depicted in art, riding on the back of a wild boar. She seemed to be popular around the Ardennes region.

I also found that the boar was a symbol of courage and popular design for coins. But didn't find anything about the wheel which sb told to be important.

[SwissBarbar]

Hammers and a war drum. Associated with a particular god - Kahju is probably correct.

Actually it's a cup and not a war drum