EB: Voicemod Preview

**Jaywalker-Jack** · 03-16-2008, 18:11

Originally Posted by Lusitani

I am curious...how on earth are you guys gonna work on the Lusotannan..since even the few written remains are highly unclear?!?

They could use Basque maybe?

**Sarcasm** · 03-17-2008, 02:44

Originally Posted by Jaywalker-Jack

They could use Basque maybe?

Basque is about as far as we could go for in trying representing any of the Iberian language. The only people that spoke anything similar to Basque were, well, Basques.

Lusitanian is a sort of proto-Celtic language that has a few ligurian elements in it in my opinion. So think archaic Celtic (as in so archaic it's essentially on the border of what's Celtic or not) with various influences that come afterwards including later forms of Celtic.

**Sarcasm** · 03-17-2008, 02:47

Oh, and btw, Lusitanian is not unclear at all. We understand what exists, the problem is that there isn't a whole lot to go by (though the language stays amazingly coherent throughout the 4 examples that exist).

**Jaywalker-Jack** · 05-23-2008, 13:13

Any news on Punic or Armenian? Ive been holding out on trying them out in 1.1.
I'm guessing the voicemods will come out as independant patches rather than as part of a 1.2?

**Ibrahim** · 05-23-2008, 18:14

NICE!!! looking forward to at least 1 semetic language. the Germanic one will be great and I am looking forward to more than just the names. Armenain would be nice as well-I'll finally be able to understand at least a microscopic part about one of my old neighbors back in kuwait...

just please do me on favor. follow this link's guide abou if you haven't yet mastered the Aying:) (just wanna help) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_...geal_fricative
though scrap the frictive part with approximent. (they even mention that)

its good. following it did not lead to a wierd Ayin. unless you are already doing so

wait...abuk masri?! "your dad's Egyptian?"

**Shigawire** · 05-28-2008, 11:11

Originally Posted by Ibrahim

NICE!!! looking forward to at least 1 semetic language. the Germanic one will be great and I am looking forward to more than just the names. Armenain would be nice as well-I'll finally be able to understand at least a microscopic part about one of my old neighbors back in kuwait...

just please do me on favor. follow this link's guide abou if you haven't yet mastered the Aying:) (just wanna help) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_...geal_fricative
though scrap the frictive part with approximent. (they even mention that)

its good. following it did not lead to a wierd Ayin. unless you are already doing so

We've already covered all of this. I was very specific to my voice actors about getting the ayin right. The punic voicemod is technically recorded and done, just not implemented yet.

Originally Posted by Olaf The Great

Hasn't Phoenician and Punic been nearly erased from history? I know Hebrew is similar though.

Yes and no. Modern Hebrew isn't true Hebrew at all, but rather a Phoenician dialect. Dr. Charles R. Krahmalkov, and others, have reconstructed a Phoenician grammar and glossary based on neopunic poetry. Neo-punic is the punic spoken after Roman brutalization and occupation in the 3rd Punic War. Neo-Punic was written on pottery in Latin, and is spoken in some form all the way up to the point where the Vandals sacked Carthage. There's a lot you can find out from archaeological digs, and some detective-work, if you're dedicated to piece together this stuff. We used Krahmalkov's dictionary and grammar extensively, and we also emailed with him. Punic is very similar to modern hebrew, with a few exceptions such as the sound of Ayin, the implementation and use of Aleph in words and so on.

**russia almighty** · 05-28-2008, 13:43

^I could have sworn they have a lot of old punic examples to work with?

I know if you guys ever where to tackle a Southern Arabian dialect, you have a ton of material to work with, at least leftover wise (which makes me wonder, how literate was their society? I mean, true, those inscribing could only be a few people, but still, there is so many if I'm correct)

**Olaf The Great** · 05-23-2008, 19:58

Originally Posted by Jaywalker-Jack

Any news on Punic or Armenian? Ive been holding out on trying them out in 1.1.
I'm guessing the voicemods will come out as independant patches rather than as part of a 1.2?

Hasn't Phoenician and Punic been nearly erased from history? I know Hebrew is similar though.

**Jaywalker-Jack** · 05-25-2008, 16:04

My knowledge on this dosn't go any further than wikipedia's entry. Apparently Phoenician is not completely lost to us.

**Jolt** · 05-30-2008, 00:15

Originally Posted by Sarcasm

Oh, and btw, Lusitanian is not unclear at all. We understand what exists, the problem is that there isn't a whole lot to go by (though the language stays amazingly coherent throughout the 4 examples that exist).

Four inscriptions? All I know of is three: Lomas de Moledo, Cabeço das Fraguas and Arroyo de Cáceres. All of them written in Latin. Which one is the fourth? Yes, Lusitanian language is a language derived of the Celtic language but with more Indo-European elements than the latter.

**lobf** · 05-29-2008, 20:42

Originally Posted by Sarcasm

Basque is about as far as we could go for in trying representing any of the Iberian language. The only people that spoke anything similar to Basque were, well, Basques.

Indeed. Basque is even pre-Indo-European, isn't it?