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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    A general gives a morale & combat boost to units nearby: the radius of "nearby" is determined by the amount of command stars. The strenght of the boost, too, is determined by the amount of command stars.

    But.

    Traits affect the whole army at a time. Hence, if your general suffers from tons of movement/campaign penalties (Starving; On his Deathbed; Extremely Unsure Troops) his command stars won't make up for it. On the other hand well suplied & confident troops can easily overcome the lack of command stars of their leader.

    Since humans are generally speaking smart enough not to get slaughtered; the command stars never play a noticeable part on the battlefield. Only if your army is wavering before the AI onslaught will command stars help you, and even then, only limittedly.
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    Radius of effect for the morale bonus is (seems to be?) 30 m + 5 m * command + 2 m * influence.
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    but there is something that the EB team is missing. command stars are important whn you auto-resolve battles.

    now i thought that the mod was made to satisfy every type of game play. for example i like playing the strategy map i don't really manually play the battles why should i have to suffer losing an auto-resolve whn i have a better army and a better general just cuz my family member has no command stars. i rarely if ever play out the battles i like to micro-manage the economy the raiding the buliding basicly everything but sometimes i just get my () handed to me by a 7 star enemey general with 5 or 6 units

    please i beg you do something about this :D

    sorry for my tone if it seems offensive i apologize i was just complaining

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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    its hardcoded i think.

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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    Quote Originally Posted by kemozz
    but there is something that the EB team is missing. command stars are important whn you auto-resolve battles.

    now i thought that the mod was made to satisfy every type of game play. for example i like playing the strategy map i don't really manually play the battles why should i have to suffer losing an auto-resolve whn i have a better army and a better general just cuz my family member has no command stars. i rarely if ever play out the battles i like to micro-manage the economy the raiding the buliding basicly everything but sometimes i just get my () handed to me by a 7 star enemey general with 5 or 6 units
    It would be impossible to cater for every type of gameplay, of course it would. We focus on offering indepth gameplay, based around slow turns and developing generals. Of course, we are aware of the annoyingly large number of stacks that some factions generate, and we will work on ways to limit that, but we have never focused on making auto-resolve fair.

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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    I very often have success with auto-resolve when playing H/M and I have a stronger army. As long as the bar is 2/3 blue, I'll generally win. Once in a great while, I'll lose, but it isn't often enough to make me not auto-resolve.

    If the bar is less than 2/3 blue, I'll always play them out, because you'll usually lose.

    EDIT: Also, remember to save your game before a close battle, that way if you feel you lost a battle "unfairly" i.e. it was a battle you couldn't have possibly lost, you can always reload. Or you could just use the auto win cheat.
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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    Maybe command stars affect the effect of "rally" ability...

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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    I've never really used that. If I get a routing unit back in the fight, they'll only break again and cause more panic in my lines.

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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Foot
    It would be impossible to cater for every type of gameplay, of course it would. We focus on offering indepth gameplay, based around slow turns and developing generals. Of course, we are aware of the annoyingly large number of stacks that some factions generate, and we will work on ways to limit that, but we have never focused on making auto-resolve fair.

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    my main question is that is there any interest among the developers to make auto-resolve fair?
    the reason i say this is because the EB team has put some much effort and time into making a really nice "grand campaign" map. isnt that true? most of the improvements have been at the macro level - realistic troops, cities, wonders, cultures, buildings etc. by having an unfair auto resolve feature, it bogs down the macro campaign to a reallly slow pace and this makes the macro game suffer - perhaps fatally for some of us.
    i know you can't cater to all player types but the point i want to make is that you are really penalizing the people who like to focus on grand strategy instead of the minutia of every meaningless battle.
    i dont see the point of having put so much work on such a deep campaign map if the game only favors people who like to be involved in every battle.

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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    But that's the way R:TW was made....the campaign map was almost secondary until only recently in the TW series. I still don't understand how you can have so many difficulties with auto resolve. I use it for battles sometimes (though I always play out decisive battles). Even in vanilla, if you go up against a 8 star general, it's better to fight it out.
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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsiuv
    But that's the way R:TW was made....the campaign map was almost secondary until only recently in the TW series. I still don't understand how you can have so many difficulties with auto resolve. I use it for battles sometimes (though I always play out decisive battles). Even in vanilla, if you go up against a 8 star general, it's better to fight it out.



    yeah, i can see how the campaign map was secondary in the earlier series. my first entry into the TW series was R:TW and it is the campagin map has been what has kept me coming back. i guess i am in the minority in this.

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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    Quote Originally Posted by innocex
    my main question is that is there any interest among the developers to make auto-resolve fair?
    I ... I am an EB developer, so take my opinion as a official for the moment. We've never said we wanted to neglect the battlemap game, we want to develop both areas of the game to their full potential. Sometimes this means making changes to another area, and we weigh the cost-benefit very carefully.

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    Default Re: anything being done with the battle 'autoresolve'?

    I do auto-resolve frequently in order to avoid being bogged down fighting dozens of minor battles each turn against ever-spawning rebels and few-unit strong enemy armies and of course I am sometimes "unfairly" defeated. However I would never complain about that, because: first - human player always has a huge an "unfair" predominance over AI (read: artificial ignorance) and second - historically the larger and more mighty an empire was the harder it was to keep order and quell rebelions. Occasional defeats from autorsolve somewhat represent this, so one can take as an addition to role-playing. After all, it is just a game and it is more thrilling not to know whether you woud win an auto-resolve or not, rather than be certain that you will crush the AI again.

    I do play personally all major or strategically significant battles though.

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