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    Στωικισμός Member Bijo's Avatar
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    Well, I could insert a nice story for you, but it seems Innocentius has already mentioned a lot of important things I concur with.

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    Quick question: where is that ignore button again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EA
    Quote Originally Posted by me
    What is maturity?
    Extinction, [...]
    Please explain for I do not yet clearly understand you.


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    At the moment my notion of maturity is more or less like the following:
    ---On the lower levels:
    * financial independence
    * steady serious properly functioning relationship (if applicable)
    * ability to survive and move about business normally in society
    * etc.

    ---On the higher levels:
    * intellectual virtue and maturity
    * philosophy (knowledge, wisdom, truth, morality, etc.)
    * the control of emotions, passions, and desires to prevent conflict and facilitate peace

    What say you of it?
    Emotion, passions, and desires are, thus peace is not.
    Emotion: you have it or it has you.

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    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bijo
    What say you of it?
    Add self-relativism.
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    As human evolution looks dead with the situation we're currently in. I guess the human race isn't just matured, it has already false teath and a wheelchair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres
    Add self-relativism.
    Explain.
    Emotion, passions, and desires are, thus peace is not.
    Emotion: you have it or it has you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bijo
    Explain.
    The answer is in the thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres
    The answer is in the thread
    Good. I predicted this response. I see that my foresight capability here is in order :P

    Even IF the answer is in the thread, which is minimally doubtful, the question is have YOU explained it (as it seems you are roughly imitating some of my behaviour from another thread and I did indeed explain my arguments in it)? From the two answers 'yes' and 'no' the correct one is, and can only be, 'no'. And that statement can only ring true.

    Naturally, it leads one to think your argument is unsound and is factually unsupported by your required sufficient reasoning
    Emotion, passions, and desires are, thus peace is not.
    Emotion: you have it or it has you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bijo
    Good. I predicted this response. I see that my foresight capability here is in order :P
    Sorry, I couldn't resist


    Self-relativism, especially in the meaning of not taking ourselves too serious and being able to look at the man/woman in the mirror and to make fun of him/her.

    It helps a human being in understanding that he doesn't have all the answers, that he isn't perfect, that he isn't thát important. It'll also come in handy to avoid or solve conflicts with yourself as well as with other human beings. It is a necessary prerequisite to obtain maturity, to deal with negative emotions, or to put it even better: it will make it easier for you to reach the desired state of peace

    If every human being wouldn't take him/herself too serious and would share many laughs every once in a while, the world would be a much better place. Less conflicts, more peace.

    Realise and accept your own imperfection as well as the imperfection of your fellow human beings and you'll feel much better. And it makes you mature.

    And it makes you stronger. Everybody eventually will get some serious uppercuts in real life and self relativism will help you to get over it and continue with your life.
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    Finding a balance between Sex, Alcohol, and Partying and Pursuing the Greater Endeavors of the Mind is about right. You can get burnt out very quickly being on either end of the spectrum, some will collapse from over thinking something, and someone else will collapse because they've waken up and realized the universe is much larger than what they can see and hear.

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    Hmmm, well I am not familiar with the exact meaning of the Dutch expression. In either case on first sight I would understand the word as something more or less like "when one relates (something) to oneself". In any case, your explanation, regardless what the right overall word is, is clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andres

    It helps a human being in understanding that he doesn't have all the answers, that he isn't perfect, that he isn't thát important. It'll also come in handy to avoid or solve conflicts with yourself as well as with other human beings. It is a necessary prerequisite to obtain maturity, to deal with negative emotions, or to put it even better: it will make it easier for you to reach the desired state of peace
    Possibly, but it seems more one would actually ignore, or as you name it, laugh off, trouble as if to obtain an emotional sense of security by not really solving problems.

    it will make it easier for you to reach the desired state of peace
    What is peace? Negating negative emotion by the use of positive emotion does not mean there will be peace.
    Emotion, passions, and desires are, thus peace is not.
    Emotion: you have it or it has you.

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    Pay heed to my story named The Thief in the Mead Hall.
    No.

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