Results 1 to 30 of 35

Thread: Final Parts Check

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Chieftain of the Pudding Race Member Evil_Maniac From Mars's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    6,407

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    I got another shop offering me everything including Windows XP install in 2/2.5 hours, so I guess that's not far off. My average price is about 30-35 Euro per hour to put everything together.

    I would do this myself, but I'd rather practice with a bare bones kit first, so this computer I'll just get someone else to build.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    Is it hard to add a soundcard after I've built the rest of the computer?
    Last edited by Evil_Maniac From Mars; 09-01-2007 at 17:41.

  2. #2
    Nobody expects the Senior Member Lemur's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Wisconsin Death Trip
    Posts
    15,754

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    The first build is nerve-wracking and exhilarating and frustrating and, eventually, triumphant. But it's not the best for a machine you want to have up and running smoothly soon.

  3. #3
    Chieftain of the Pudding Race Member Evil_Maniac From Mars's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    6,407

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    Which is better - Windows Professional or Windows Home (XP)? I have Windows Home, and I'm used to it, but are there any great advantages Professional offers? I'm not getting Vista yet, not by a long shot.

    I'm ordering within the next few days, thanks so much to everyone who's helped me.

  4. #4
    Chieftain of the Pudding Race Member Evil_Maniac From Mars's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    6,407

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    This is the last, final check: Are all these parts compatible?

  5. #5
    Nobody expects the Senior Member Lemur's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Wisconsin Death Trip
    Posts
    15,754

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    Which is better - Windows Professional or Windows Home (XP)?
    Windows XP Pro is the only way to o, a I understand it. Xiahou, Husar or Whacker can correct me on this, but I believe Windows XP Home is crippled in ways you start to notice over time. Quite a lot of security features are stripped out of Home, and I think it doesn't utilize multiple cores on the CPU.

    I could be getting the specifics wrong, and I could look it all up, but why bother when there are uber-geeks on the board who can correct my lazy assertions?

  6. #6
    Needs more flowers Moderator drone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Moral High Grounds
    Posts
    9,286

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    I always run XP Pro. If you have any kind of home network, Pro just works better.

    From Wiki
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki
    Windows XP Professional offers a number of features unavailable in the Home Edition, including:

    * The ability to become part of a Windows Server domain, a group of computers that are remotely managed by one or more central servers.
    * A sophisticated access control scheme that allows specific permissions on files to be granted to specific users under normal circumstances. However, users can use tools other than Windows Explorer (like cacls or File Manager), or restart to Safe Mode to modify access control lists.
    * Remote Desktop server, which allows a PC be operated by another Windows XP user over a local area network or the Internet.
    * Offline Files and Folders, which allow the PC to automatically store a copy of files from another networked computer and work with them while disconnected from the network.
    * Encrypting File System, which encrypts files stored on the computer's hard drive so they cannot be read by another user, even with physical access to the storage medium.
    * Centralized administration features, including Group Policies, Automatic Software Installation and Maintenance, Roaming User Profiles, and Remote Installation Service (RIS).
    * Internet Information Services (IIS), Microsoft's HTTP and FTP Server.
    * Support for two physical central processing units (CPU). The number of CPU cores and Hyper-threading capabilities on modern CPUs are considered to be part of a single physical processor, therefore multicore CPUs will work fine under XP Home Edition.
    The .Org's MTW Reference Guide Wiki - now taking comments, corrections, suggestions, and submissions

    If I werent playing games Id be killing small animals at a higher rate than I am now - SFTS
    Si je n'étais pas jouer à des jeux que je serais mort de petits animaux à un taux plus élevé que je suis maintenant - Louis VI The Fat

    "Why do you hate the extremely limited Spartan version of freedom?" - Lemur

  7. #7
    Dragonslayer Emeritus Senior Member Sigurd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Norge
    Posts
    6,877

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    I guess I could answer this one as I have done it before (all though it has been a while).
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    Is it hard to add a soundcard after I've built the rest of the computer?
    It is not hard at all.

    Insert the card in an empty PCI slot, attach the cables that's in the sound card package. (I remember two cables where at least one is attached to the DVD player).
    Disable the onboard soundcard (I remember jumpers on the motherboard) by following the instructions in the motherboard manual.
    Install sound device drivers.

    That should be all (if I remember it correctly).
    Status Emeritus

  8. #8
    Needs more flowers Moderator drone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Moral High Grounds
    Posts
    9,286

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
    Insert the card in an empty PCI slot, attach the cables that's in the sound card package. (I remember two cables where at least one is attached to the DVD player).
    Disable the onboard soundcard (I remember jumpers on the motherboard) by following the instructions in the motherboard manual.
    Install sound device drivers.

    That should be all (if I remember it correctly).
    You can usually disable the motherboard sound from the BIOS these days.

    One thing to check when doing this: verify that the IRQs aren't shared after changing your setup. I put in a sound card once, disabled the onboard sound, and ended up with the sound card sharing the networking IRQ. Vista has nothing on that!
    The .Org's MTW Reference Guide Wiki - now taking comments, corrections, suggestions, and submissions

    If I werent playing games Id be killing small animals at a higher rate than I am now - SFTS
    Si je n'étais pas jouer à des jeux que je serais mort de petits animaux à un taux plus élevé que je suis maintenant - Louis VI The Fat

    "Why do you hate the extremely limited Spartan version of freedom?" - Lemur

  9. #9
    Dragonslayer Emeritus Senior Member Sigurd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Norge
    Posts
    6,877

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    Quote Originally Posted by drone
    You can usually disable the motherboard sound from the BIOS these days.

    One thing to check when doing this: verify that the IRQs aren't shared after changing your setup. I put in a sound card once, disabled the onboard sound, and ended up with the sound card sharing the networking IRQ. Vista has nothing on that!
    Yes I remember this too... I think information about this can be found in the Mobo manual as well.
    E.g. slot one and three share IRQ.

    It has been a while since I built a machine and I guess it is about time to get a serious upgrade myself.
    Husar and Bijo has introduced me to the game World in Conflict... All though I am not supposed to game I am just too tempted to let this one go. I have no hardware that will do this game justice though, but can't justify upgrading just for a game.
    I haven't done a desktop since 2002. I am all laptop these days and the 2002 machine still runs ok though somewhat slow due to accumulated applications and whatnot. I just need another excuse for spending about 1500 EUR on a new machine.
    Status Emeritus

  10. #10
    Στωικισμός Member Bijo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Η Γη / Κόλαση
    Posts
    1,844

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
    Yes I remember this too... I think information about this can be found in the Mobo manual as well.
    E.g. slot one and three share IRQ.

    It has been a while since I built a machine and I guess it is about time to get a serious upgrade myself.
    Husar and Bijo has introduced me to the game World in Conflict... All though I am not supposed to game I am just too tempted to let this one go. I have no hardware that will do this game justice though, but can't justify upgrading just for a game.
    I haven't done a desktop since 2002. I am all laptop these days and the 2002 machine still runs ok though somewhat slow due to accumulated applications and whatnot. I just need another excuse for spending about 1500 EUR on a new machine.
    WiC is a good excuse. I don't remember however that I introduced this game to you.
    Emotion, passions, and desires are, thus peace is not.
    Emotion: you have it or it has you.

    ---

    Pay heed to my story named The Thief in the Mead Hall.
    No.

    ---

    Check out some of my music.

  11. #11
    Dragonslayer Emeritus Senior Member Sigurd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Norge
    Posts
    6,877

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    Quote Originally Posted by Bijo
    WiC is a good excuse. I don't remember however that I introduced this game to you.
    Oh.. I have been reading your thread in the Arena.
    Status Emeritus

  12. #12
    Chieftain of the Pudding Race Member Evil_Maniac From Mars's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    6,407

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    I ordered half the parts today, they'll be here in about 2-3 days according to the website, but I'm used to things coming in a week or two. Maybe this company will be a bit better in that respect.

  13. #13
    Chieftain of the Pudding Race Member Evil_Maniac From Mars's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    6,407

    Default Re: Final Parts Check

    I got the first shipment today, and the next one should be here in a couple of days. I'll probably have the PC built over the weekend, and have everything reinstalled and copied from my old PC by next Tuesday.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO