Indo-European studies

[Anastasios Helios]

Swastikas were also found in the cultures of the ancient Jews and on various Native American pottery...does that mean they are Aryans also?

[blitzkrieg80]

sorry, my bad... swastikas are unrelated, as universal as the sun, but an example of how people bring their own baggage to art, not the other way around

well, the fact is that Indo-Iranians DID largely impact Armenia... the steppe is RIGHT THERE, thus why Indo-Iranians DID largely impact Persia... the only thing wrong with the statment in the historical description which was pointed out, is that Greeks and Romans are not "technically" Aryan... it's an easy typo to fix... and it IS important that it is fixed, not because of Hitler, because there is no reason his or anyone else's stupidity should affect fact, but because the term Aryan technically means a specific branch of Indo-European and was only mistakenly categorized the same as all Indo-Europeans, which is modern society's fault (yes I blame you, society )

[bovi]

So basically it's just to remove the Aryan reference? The rest is correct? Easily done.

[bovi]

That is... I can't find that reference anywhere, neither in the internal or public version. Which version of EB, and which file are you reading this in?

[Batahr]

It's on the website (fourth paragraph), don't know if the same text is used in the game somewhere.

[Geoffrey S]

It's on the site; first search in the Hayasdan history section for 'aryan' turned it up. Doesn't seem to me like any malice was intended.

[bovi]

Oh. I can't fix that.

[artavazd]

the AR of ARyan is the root word for many words in armenian including ARmenia and ARmenians. the suffix yan is a common armenian suffix meaning of or from. AR is the root word for sun in armenian ARev. In pagan armenia sunworrshipiing was big. that is wwhere we get ARmen basicaly meaning men of the sun. In armenian the sunworshipers were known as ARev vorti or children of the sun. ARyan is another term refering to this ancient ritual basicaly refering to the people as from the sun ARyan armenian last names end with the same suffix yan or ian meaning of or from. In a more general sense the word Aryan can be connected with early indo-european cultures taking the theory that the indo-european homeland was in the armenian highlands and northern iran.

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftB...onicle120.html



If the word Aryan offended anyone I suggest you take an advil and relax. Political correctness does not have the right to offend my culture.

[Randarkmaan]

I thought the Aryans were a people who invaded and the destroyed the Indus valley civilization? They spoke Sanskrit ,introducing the indo-european language to India, rather than the older Dravidian languages, they brought the Hindu Gods and their Vedic poetry and they introduced the caste system (with themselves mostly as the highest castes the brahmin and the khsatrya, the original Dravidian population as the lower castes). Something like this is what I've read in a quite good series of history books (Grimberg's "världshistoria"), also with "aryan" meaning "noble" in Sanskrit it's quite likely they referred to themselves as nobles compared to the original inhabitants whom were branded as "infidels and non-believers".

the AR of ARyan is the root word for many words in armenian including ARmenia and ARmenians. the suffix yan is a common armenian suffix meaning of or from. AR is the root word for sun in armenian ARev. In pagan armenia sunworrshipiing was big. that is wwhere we get ARmen basicaly meaning men of the sun. In armenian the sunworshipers were known as ARev vorti or children of the sun. ARyan is another term refering to this ancient ritual basicaly refering to the people as from the sun ARyan armenian last names end with the same suffix yan or ian meaning of or from. In a more general sense the word Aryan can be connected with early indo-european cultures taking the theory that the indo-european homeland was in the armenian highlands and northern iran.

But don't the Armenians call their country "Hayastan"?

for the Sanskrit term, Monier-Williams has: "a respectable or honourable or faithful man, an inhabitant of Âryâvarta; one who is faithful to the religion of his country; name of the race which immigrated from Central Asia into Âryâvarta (opposed to an-arya, dasyu, daasa); in later times name of the first three castes (opposed to shudra); a man highly esteemed; a master; Âryan, favourable to the Âryan people; behaving like an Âryan, worthy of one, honourable, respectable, noble; of a good family; excellent; wise; suitable"

That, I think, is the origin of the word "aryan"