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    Silly Yank site!
    It's a european site, in fact.... Congratulations on your new place as a leftie!
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Economic Left/Right: -4.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    It's a european site, in fact.... Congratulations on your new place as a leftie!
    Sticking with my new status: even if it is of European making, it is still America's fault, somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    I had to check that in Wiktionary to determine if it was a compliment or an insult...
    I'm not sure it's either, but here's the reference.

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    I guess this is a good time to split the thread so we don't keep taking this offtopic.
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    Default Re: Sen. Larry Craig "looks at bums"

    If there was(is) anything having to do with Larry Craig that is worth talking about anymore, we would be (or soon will). Not a bad tangent, imho

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    Economic Left/Right: -4.00
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.97

    This is by all means the perfect political stance

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    Hmm, Interesting. I think this is a good time to split this thread however.
    Last edited by Productivity; 09-01-2007 at 04:44.

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    Hmm, Interesting. I think this is a good time to split this thread however.
    Cool chart. I'm still wondering how Don managed to rate as a bigger capitalist pig than I, though.
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    I think I'm at 7.5 and 1, so 0.5 to the right of Xiahou on that chart thingy.

    I didn't like the questions that much.

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    -4.75 , -6.92

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    -2.00
    -3.69
    for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou
    Not to mention that "liberal" by definition can't be moderate. Liberalism is about change, conservatism is about preserving the status quo. Neither side of the pond really uses the terms as they should, strictly speaking.

    My theory for the difference is that the US was founded on a limited government, therefore to us, conservatism is trying to maintain that. I think that Europe doesn't have the same foundations in that regard, so the term takes on different meaning.

    *I haven't really put much thought into this, mind you.
    The US was founded on classically liberal ideas. The famous paragraph from the American DoI is as good a summary of classical liberalism as there is. If one goes back a bit further, one can trace the break between liberalism and the state back to the corresponding break between protestantism and the established church. IMHO that's why Britain is a bit different from mainland Europe in our political thinking, and the US more different still.

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    Economic Left/Right: -1.12
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.62

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    I've updated it with Crazed Rabbit, Tribesman, econ21 and Ser Clegane. I've also added an average - it's just the mean of all scores. Ice wins at the moment.


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    Your name truly suits you
    Well done with the graphing.
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    Economic Left/Right: -1.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46

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    Economic Left/Right: -3.00
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    If you think Republicans are 'extreme right' where on Earth do you put the BNP or France's National Front on the spectrum?
    Hehe, over here, a party with the views of the Republicans would probably considered a threat to the welfare of our society. Like that British doctor said in Sicko: It would be a revolution if socialized healthcare was removed. Also, no political party with the word "Front" in their name can be any good.

    I took the political compass too, by the way:
    Economic Left/Right: -7.00
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
    Pretty close to Dalai Lama...

    To be honest though, this doesn't really reflect my political views as I'm a fascist in some aspects, anarchist in some and just plain ignorant and indifferent in others. A political test can never be perfect. I prefer to define my political stance from my philosophic view: to heck with it all.
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    Economic Left/Right: 2.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.03

    Hmm. It's probably more to the right than I'd naturally place myself, but I disagreed with the way a large number of the statements were phrased. Oh well.

    Productivity, nice initiative! It'd be interesting to see how it all turns out.
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    Your political compass
    Economic Left/Right: -4.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31

    Mind you, I don't really no what I'm talking about in economics, a bunch of the questions were confusing. I honestly have no idea what effect multinational monopolies have.

    Interesting thing about that graph, we only have 4 authoritarians and they're barely above the line.
    Last edited by Sasaki Kojiro; 09-01-2007 at 15:45.

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    I think I only didn't understand one of the questions (I think bottom of page 3 or 4)

    Also, some questions really depended on how you understood/read them.
    For example I would think more carefully about a question that includes the words "always" "X should be Y" "everytime".
    I guess the result depends a lot on how critically you think about a given question and consider out of the box cases that might possibly not be completely agreeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Productivity
    I've updated it with Crazed Rabbit, Tribesman, econ21 and Ser Clegane. I've also added an average - it's just the mean of all scores. Ice wins at the moment.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    Interesting thing about that graph, we only have 4 authoritarians and they're barely above the line.
    Yes, I noticed that. I guess it is the Orgs demographic - the Org is mainly young men who are into the internet and computer gaming. I suspect they tend to be fairly liberal on the questions of sex, religion and patriotism that determine the vertical axis.

    It's an interesting graph, Productivity. Maybe you could persuade Divinus Arma to include it in his post #1 of the "who the hell are you?" stickie?

    It might be fun to colour code the entries by region - casual inspection suggests Euros and Yanks have rather different centres of gravity! (which I believe was the starting point for this thread ...)
    Last edited by econ21; 09-01-2007 at 17:01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21
    It might be fun to colour code the entries by region - casual inspection suggests Euros and Yanks have rather different centres of gravity! (which I believe was the starting point for this thread ...)
    Well... At least it was the final off-topic nail getting the original thread completely off course
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    It is actually quite surprising how many people are close to HoreTore, even though he is generally seen as being "the socialist" around here
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    Economic Left/Right: 0.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

    Fairly moderate to, with a liberal lean on social issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FactionHeir
    It is actually quite surprising how many people are close to HoreTore, even though he is generally seen as being "the socialist" around here
    Well, to be honest, I think I should be a little to the right on the economics, seeing as I want free markets, just not everywhere... Some things are best done by the state IMO. In other areas, the private sector handles things just fine, though I'd like the state to be a competitor too.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    HoreTore seems like a socialist, but he can be reasonable. What you need is JAG to stop by and take the quiz.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    HoreTore seems like a socialist, but he can be reasonable. What you need is JAG to stop by and take the quiz.

    We socialists are always reasonable

    It's all the others who are being unreasonable!
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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