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    Lol.

    I think I'd be more libertarian on the social issues scale if they had some different questions.

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    Economic Left/Right: -0.62
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    Economic Left/Right: -0.62
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97
    A....Texan, and a COMMIE...?? Could this be true???

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    A....Texan, and a COMMIE...?? Could this be true???

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    Scary, isn't it?

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    Well, can we be too surprised? After learning Louis was both French and a Texan, not much surprises me anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    HoreTore seems like a socialist, but he can be reasonable. What you need is JAG to stop by and take the quiz.

    Even Jag can be reasonable sometimes, he just leads with his bleeding heart. If you're really looking for an off-the-hook Lefty, have Idaho take it. I bet the chart can't measure him.
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    wow I am with all the commies. Thankfully I have guns god and illegal fetus killing or I would be past HoreTore.
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    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Ok I have done some updates and added some extra things. First the main chart has been updated - SFTS is now the closest to the average of the org.



    Secondly I've added an EU/US/Other category with varying series. I haven't put names or the average into this as I'm trying to keep it less busy than the original chart - cross reference to that if you want to find yourself. If I've incorrectly categorised you I'm sorry, get back to me and I'll change it.



    Last I've put together a comparison to find distances between all members. This just does a simple calculation (who can remember back to high school and finding the length of the hypotenuse?) between every member and plots it. The closer to green/the smaller the number, the closer you are, red is the opposite.



    If you want to include these in your thread Divinus Arma, feel free.
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    Hah! That's really awesome, Productivity. My greenest is my ole buddy Lemur.


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    This is gettin' kinda fancy, and I must say I'm impressed.

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    Wow, the division between EU/US is really clear.

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    If you'll note, Sasaki, we Americans are spread all across the spectrum, whilst you Europeans are all clustered in the bottom left quadrant. I'd say this speaks highly for our diversity of thought.

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    One way to explain it: The US is younger than Europe, so the anarchists have not had enough time to convert everyone to their thinking yet
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    Darnit. I'm the right-most European if that is to be believed. Fragony, please take that test ASAP!
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    Your political compass
    Economic Left/Right: -3.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18

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    Good work, Productivity. I think the two unknowns on your graph (Geoffrey_S and I) are both Euros.

    I wonder what is the mean difference in the horizontal and vertical axes between the Euros and the Yanks? The graph makes it look like the big difference economic, but the Euros are also lower on the social scale.

    ...whilst you Europeans are all clustered in the bottom left quadrant.
    True, but none of European "rightwinger" I know have taken the test yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21
    ...but the Euros are also lower on the social scale.


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    Your political compass:

    Economic Left/Right: -1.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    If you'll note, Sasaki, we Americans are spread all across the spectrum, whilst you Europeans are all clustered in the bottom left quadrant. I'd say this speaks highly for our diversity of thought.
    Ho-ho, hang on! We are dealing with .Org demographics.

    For one thing, the French DevDave's or Fragonies don't speak English. At least not enough to participate on an English forum for recreational purposes.

    I think the continental orgah demographic in general are even more skewed towards the younger and better educated than the .org in general. I.e. liberal, leftist college or recent ex-college students. The continental Xiahou's, Dons and Odins are not here either. It is one thing that I've noticed before, that the Americans here are much more varied than the Euros.

    This is very interesting, Productivity. Thanks for your effort.

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    Ha! Excellent observation, Louis; we Yanks sometimes forget what part of the european population would likely ever visit such a place as totalwar.org's backroom, let alone participate.

    I took HoreTore's survey twice: once last night after several beers concluding a particularly strenuous 2 weeks of work. That result:

    Your political compass
    Economic Left/Right: -3.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41
    A Euro in disguise!

    then again, this morning, sober, after watching some of the political talking-heads TV shows:

    Economic Left/Right: 6.50
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 8.05
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    The ultimate reason why drinking is good!!





    Or, it may explain why we euro's are lefties...
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    Your political compass

    Economic Left/Right: 0.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08

    Sounds about right on the Social side, but I figured I'd be a little more positive on the Economic. I don't trust the government, but I don't really trust unregulated corporations either.
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    Economic Left/Right: -4.12
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.82

    That's not too far off, it's about where Pope Benedict is, though on most tests I take I'm slightly more to the right authoritarian, at about -1.5/2 and 1/2 respectively.

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    Economic Left/Right: 4.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.49

    That sounds about right. I think I may be slightly more to the left economically, I didn't like some of the questions in that test.
    Last edited by Kralizec; 09-02-2007 at 23:24.

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    Economic Left/Right: -4.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.13
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    Economic Left/Right: -4.62
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.62
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    Economic Left/Right: -5.50
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18


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    Hmm, this seems to tell us that is the Europeans who have a off kilter sense of left and right politics, not the Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Hmm, this seems to tell us that is the Europeans who have a off kilter sense of left and right politics, not the Americans.

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    Did you check out the EU political compass? And the US primaries compass?

    But sure, you're correct, how else would the Europeian goverments be in that square while the people in the opposite one?
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    Hmmmm, interesting range of alignment, (but that's obvious in the Backroom without the quiz), it's interesting to see that the age of the Orgah generally relates to the alignment. The younger members seem to be more left and liberal than the older members.

    Economic Left/Right: -6.12
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82
    Much more left than I thought it would be.
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