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    To avoid the boiling oil you need to capture the Gatehouse by moving troops on the wall onto it or destroying it...otherwise you have to enter the city by another way.

    If you want to fight on the walls then Armored or Spartan Hoplites can beat any Pre-Marian Roman infantry but after the Marian Reforms you probably should use mainly Spartans for wall fighting. Training your troops at a settlement that has the Temple of Nike helps also helps as it boosts your troops' experience by up to 3 when you have the 4th Level of the Temple built.

    The other way (probably the easier one) is to bring 3 or so units of Onagers and destroy the Gatehouse (you need to destroy both the door and the walls above it to turn off the boiling oil) and some wall sections as well as all nearby towers. If you sap the walls you can reduce the number of Onager units to 1 or 2 but relying on only sapping will result in alot of casualties from the towers if the defenders can put up a tough fight within their range. Sapping also isn't available for Epic Stone Walls.

    Btw, if you send a spy into the city before attacking it there's a chance he'll open the gates when you attack it, if he does that then the boiling oil is turned off.
    Last edited by Phoenix; 09-02-2007 at 01:45.

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    The boiling oil IS turned off? Can anyone else confirm this? Maybe it was because I was playing with an older patch (finally patched to 1.5 today), but it always seemed to burn me regardless of spies.

    Thanks on the suggest on Onagers; I was afraid that's what I'd have to do, but I guess low casualties are more important than a blitzkrieg.
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    If your spy opens up the gates before the battle, then, yes, the boiling oil won't be on AFAIK.
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    Hello.

    In the patched versions of RTW V1.5 and BI V1.6 gates:

    Pour oil:
    - if you follow routers inside an enemy held gate
    - if you try to force your way in though an enemy held gate
    - on the enemy if you capture the gathouse and open the door to allow the enemy to pass through

    Dont pour oil:
    - if your spy disables/opens the gates before battle
    - if you 100% destroy the gatehouse with artillery
    - if your wall top running troops capture the gatehouse

    Hope this forum doesnt mind but we were swapping lots of siege tactics, with pictures, in a campaign thread on another forum. Its Barbarian Invasion..but it works the same as RTW. Lots of pictures so members with slow downloaders beware...
    http://rtw.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/f...8&st=20#post21
    Regards
    (RTW Eras: RTW V1.5 and BI V1.6 No Mods)

    Currently writing a Scipii AAR (with pictures)
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=91877

    Barbarian Invasion. Franks hold out against the world.
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=77526

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