"Sami axemen"?

**Kongeslask** · 09-02-2007, 00:20

This is one of the silliest fantasy units I have yet seen. The archetype of a Sami fighter of the pre-modern era would be a highly skilled archer. But what is one more fantasy unit in a sea of them?

**Guru** · 09-02-2007, 08:39

Is there such an unit in Kingdoms? That certainly sounds odd. Does the map even cover the northernmost area of Europe, like Lapland? I think it's strange to include a Sami unit in the game. No offence,but I've never heard of an armed Sami, if not counting knife as a weapon. For the Sami and us Laplanders it's more of a tool anyway. I think the archtype of a Sami fighter of the pre-modern world would be a peaceful nomad who herds reindeers, fishes and hunts animals with traps. But axemen and archers? Reindeer-riding, heavily armoured lancers would be great!

- Guru

(edit: spelling mistake)

**Mr Frost** · 09-02-2007, 10:42

Originally Posted by Guru

...Reindeer-riding, heavily armoured lancers would be great!
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Well , with the new Empire Total War game features they announced , we could get the Finnish/Eskimo Walrus Riders to raid shipping with , which I'm sure you'd agree would rock resoundingly .

**Kongeslask** · 09-02-2007, 11:24

A screenshot:

It is even more strange that they can be recruited at the Isle of Man.

**econ21** · 09-02-2007, 11:36

Originally Posted by Mr Frost

Well , with the new Empire Total War game features they announced , we could get the Finnish/Eskimo Walrus Riders to raid shipping with ...

Apologies for being off topic, but what are the ahistorical features of ETW that concern you? I think I've missed the announcement.

**icek** · 09-02-2007, 11:49

dont worry, they are ,i presume, in teutonic campaign so they will be easily beaten by cavalry or by order brothers since they dont have morale bonus.

Teutonic have also one such ahistorical unit, shielded halabardiers, that use halberd like one-handed war hammers.

**Guru** · 09-02-2007, 12:32

Isle of Man? Probably in Britannia campaign then. Heavily armoured nomads from northern Scandinavia recruited on Isle of Man... "Whose survival has long depended on their ferocious strenght in combat." Oh god. Their survival has long depended on the ability to survive in harsh, cold conditions. Who would they have fought? As far as I know everyone pretty much left them alone. I respect the Sami, I'm not sniffing at them, they just are not known as warriors. CA's imagination.
And one handed halbediers... I bet wielding such a thing would be quite clumsy business. Most of the weight at the head of the pole and you'll be grateful for having another hand and a shield.
Any more funny units in kingdoms people?

- Guru

**Mr Frost** · 09-06-2007, 08:53

Originally Posted by econ21

Apologies for being off topic, but what are the ahistorical features of ETW that concern you? I think I've missed the announcement.

No , you missed the smiley .

That , and C.A. always has some ahistorical units in there game somewhere . It must be in their contract or somesuch

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Mostly it was just a little humour {hence the

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Though Walrus riding commerce raiders would be fun and they did announce they now have tactical naval combat if that is what you missed .

**econ21** · 09-06-2007, 11:42

Originally Posted by Mr Frost

That , and C.A. always has some ahistorical units in there game somewhere . It must be in their contract or somesuch

I know. I rolled my eyes watching the opening video for the Kingdoms crusades campaign (seeing the Wehrmacht sturmpioneres bailing out the Byzantines).