Let us speculate on the subject of fantasy units...

[Freedom Onanist]

A subversive one could be "Arrogance".

This takes the form of a negatgive influence you can deploy against a nation that thinks itself a bit too big for its boots at any given point in history. This is a transient thing that only last for a set time against a particular opponent.

So, for example:

US colonist can deploy British Arrogance in the 1770's. After gaining laurels in the early and mid 1700's Britain firmly sat on them for a little too long = bloody nose

France can deploy Prussian Arrogance in the 1790's and 1800's. Prussia had clearly declined but thought much of its Frederickan legacy = bloody nose

The British can deploy French Arrogance in the 1800's due to French Napoleonic superiority complex and megalomanic psychopathis(sp?) = bloody nose

Later, maybe out of scope of the game, the Russians can deploy British and French Arrogance in the 1850's. British because of another case of laurel sitting, French because of their inveterate belief in their own cultural propaganda . Though that is tempered to a large degree by Russian Incompetence, so that one is a draw = bloody noses all round.

[Bijo]

How about Dutch greediness for the Dutch faction? Some unit that has economical capabilities can be used on the field to inspire the troops to greediness, effectivity, maximum efficiency, and he can bark things at them to stimulate them such as "Fight harder! Or you will be disallowed food and beverage after the battle!" or "He who manages to wound two enemies with one shot will receive extra pay!" or "If you die, I shall sell your families' house and greedily profit from it!"

[Azi Tohak]

My best guess is some super-elite rifle unit with ludicrous stats from Kentucky, requiring a whisky guild.

You just know CA is going to make some goofy units for the Indians (both East and West) to play with. But how many indian factions will there be for the Americas? I think the HA of the plains would be great fun to play with... too bad that is a little too late for this game.

Maybe for the expanion pack: The American Civil War

Azi

[Henry707]

Hi All,

Sorry to be so far off topic on my first post but.....

Does anyone remember the 'easter egg' hidden in Rome Total realism - there was a rebel unit of guys holding drumsticks!!!

It's the truth!!

Henry

[Noir]

Originally posted by imnothere
random Giant Squid/Man-Eating Whale/Sea Monster spawn. in order to fill in all the empty spaces in the ocean. random attack on shippings(reduce 5% trade) and military vessels.

Kind of engine spawning rebels/brigands in the sea? Brilliant idea - count me in for that one; we cannot allow the ocean to spare us the annoyance.. A little period flavor is needed, Moby Dick, Captain Nemo etc

[hoom]

The Crimson Permanent Assurance has to make an appearance somewhere

[Incongruous]

Foppery. A special ability of British and French agents, they may alter the fashions of the day to that of Foppery. After which army uniforms will be come oh so much nicer and oh so much more expensive.
Thus an enemy economy succumbs to fashion.

[Freedom Onanist]

Foppery. A special ability of British and French agents, they may alter the fashions of the day to that of Foppery. After which army uniforms will be come oh so much nicer and oh so much more expensive.
Thus an enemy economy succumbs to fashion.

Hmmm, I don't think Britain would qualify for that one, they were mostly quite conservative compared to others. I think it would be more to do with how much of a megalomanic absolute ruler you have, and how usless your armies actually are. The more of those, the more extravagant your uniforms and your blathering on about honour, glory, country, etc... Like Elvis said " A little less conversation, a little more action please"

I won't mention who I have in mind.

[Incongruous]

Before Pitt's terrible clampdowns during the 1890's, Britain was seen as the most progressive and liberal state in Europe.

[Forward Observer]

What the English in the game will need is a ministry of silly walks, and If they could get John Cleese as a consultant, I'm sure he would recommend it.

As an aside, the elephant cannon units in MTW2 always remind me of something I actually saw depicted at the Smithsonian a few years back. They had one of the older Victorian styled buildings all decked out with actual exhibits from the 1876 Philadelphia centenial Exopsition.

The hall was filled with all this technology that was brand new in 1876 and everything was in mint condition. It was all donated to the Smithonian after the original exposition and had been in storage for over 100 years.

Anyway, among the exhibits of military weapons was a full sized life like statue of a camel with a real gatling gun mounted on it back. It was as laughable as the panzerphants and I wish I had taken a picture of it.

Cheers

[Incongruous]

What the English in the game will need is a ministry of silly walks, and If they could get John Cleese as a consultant, I'm sure he would recommend it.

As an aside, the elephant cannon units in MTW2 always remind me of something I actually saw depicted at the Smithsonian a few years back. They had one of the older Victorian styled buildings all decked out with actual exhibits from the 1876 Philadelphia centenial Exopsition.

The hall was filled with all this technology that was brand new in 1876 and everything was in mint condition. It was all donated to the Smithonian after the original exposition and had been in storage for over 100 years.

Anyway, among the exhibits of military weapons was a full sized life like statue of a camel with a real gatling gun mounted on it back. It was as laughable as the panzerphants and I wish I had taken a picture of it.

Cheers

That, is funny.

[LegioScythia]

Bear calvary, pretty much awesome if you think about it.

[antisocialmunky]

Bear calvary, pretty much awesome if you think about it.

Just incase you haven't seen it yet.

[Galapagos]

Giraffes for ships.They could use their long necks to grab enemy soldiers.Or maybe turtle raiders

[icek]

In the meantime we obviously have

Polish winged hussars - they can actually fly

dont know if you laught from egsistence of polish winged hussars or the fact they can actually fly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Hussars

[Lord Winter]

Of course with this being the enlightenment we can't miss out on the anarcho-syndicalist peasants! When click they deploy there signiture catch phrases, such as I'm being repressed, Strange woman lying in ponds is no basis for a system in government and other memorable pharses on the battle field they will hightened the morale of other peasents turning them from useless units to semi useless units.

*ingore the fact that king aruther was in the middle ages.

[darkragnar]

The only fantasy units that i can think off and that would actually make it to the game are the Sharp's Rifles with their wee green uniforms and all and some uber american partisan/malitia unit that will own all in ranged combat ( forgetting the fact that the British were much better marksman).

[woad&fangs]

Yankee Pig Dog Militia??? Sweet

[HarunTaiwan]

If Winston Churchill worked for CA:

Admiral Jenkins, Royal Navy

Generous with Grog +1 Morale, -1 Accuracy
Sodomite -1 Morale
Liberal with the Lash -1 Morale, +10% speed

another one:

Press Gang Enthusiast -1 Morale

[IvarrWolfsong]

America

Natty Bumpos - an entire unit of Daniel Day Lewis's who run (2x movement points) everywhere screaming "I WILL find you!" and can shoot a musket with 100% accuracy out to 2k yards

Enraged Bostonians - a full stack of crazed militia that spawn anytime you change taxes in New England

Virginia Aristocrats - snuff fueled light cavalry with a penchant for ham

Hessians - Headless Cavalry with heat seeking pumpkins filled with molten lava and Uranium.

[zerathule]

I think its time for a re appearance of the Naked Barbarians and the Screeching womens, both combined in an uber unit : the French Sans-Culottes :) (meaning without panties, at least as a litteral translation. name of the french revolutionary mobs).
Stats : weak morale, vulnerability to projectiles, can charge without orders, bonus versus nobility.

[edyzmedieval]

Tea Ship Attackers - something like the Hounds of Culann, they go berserk when they see tea ships

Chinese portable rocket launchers - This would be damned sweet.

Yeomen Musketeers - I mean come on, we Englishmen want to keep our long range supremacy

The Flying Dutchman - If you capture this ship from the Rebels (it should have something like 200 attack), all your units get +5 experience and you get the ship

[Rodion Romanovich]

I know a fantasy unit: Mel Gibson patriot flag carrier, fights with an American flag as weapon and inspires nearby troops.

[Freedom Onanist]

How about units powered by mysticism? Warrior monks impervious to bullets through the power of their meditation. Ninjas.

Or any other feng shui inspired units?

icek - dont know if you laught from egsistence of polish winged hussars or the fact they can actually fly.

Oh dear. No, i wasn't laughing at their existence just suggesting that they are ripe for fantasy. Just the kind of unit that sounds "cool", looks a bit "cool" that will inspire the ignorant invest them with all kinds of semi mythical abilities. As opposed to maybe seeing them as largely anachronistic and very niche in their full "winged" glory by the 18th cent.

[Abokasee]

Super Ninja cats, that fire lazas from there eyes when they take out 2 regiements they can shoop da whoop, theres about 15 in each group

[Sir Beane]

Hail everyone! First time poster but longtime lurker here.

As for fantasy units I'm looking forward to seeing some sort of battlefield voodoo priest recruited in the Caribbean. Special ability would be raising casualties from the dead as zombies ready to do your bidding.

Another Caribbean unit could be for the local rebels. Cannibals: they scare nearby troops and their weapon is a fork and salt shaker. Perhaps they might have the special ability to eat captives rather than execute to get a small boost in morale.

Come on CA we want to see voodoo zombies! (Or at least I do)

Wow for a first post that was rather morbid.

[zerathule]

- dont know if you laught from egsistence of polish winged hussars or the fact they can actually fly.

Oh dear. No, i wasn't laughing at their existence just suggesting that they are ripe for fantasy. Just the kind of unit that sounds "cool", looks a bit "cool" that will inspire the ignorant invest them with all kinds of semi mythical abilities. As opposed to maybe seeing them as largely anachronistic and very niche in their full "winged" glory by the 18th cent.

New unit :
Polish Inquisitors.
Abilities :
- Can Hide anywhere (so that none may expect them)
- Summon Polish flying main battle tank winged hussar

[Freedom Onanist]

New unit :
Polish Inquisitors.
Abilities :
- Can Hide anywhere (so that none may expect them)
- Summon Polish flying main battle tank winged hussar

Or endlessly questions anyone who they think might question anything Polish - ad nauseam.

[zerathule]

Or endlessly questions anyone who they think might question anything Polish - ad nauseam.

Now that you say it ... i concur

[Beefy187]

I got one

Japanese Legendary Samurais- Only available as mercs

Once they get in to melee they are invincible. 100 percent bonus against Yanks