Shields and Identification

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I would guess the number of Americans actually descended from Spaniards from Spain is incredibly low.

The proper term for people who have Central and South American Spanish-speaking ancestors is Latino and Latina

[Riadach]

I would guess the number of Americans actually descended from Spaniards from Spain is incredibly low.

The proper term for people who have Central and South American Spanish-speaking ancestors is Latino and Latina

But wasn't the point that few americans identified with the americas campaign as none were descended from indians or spanish? Surely latinas and latinos, although have a strong mestizo element, are also descended from spanish people from spain?

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But wasn't the point that few americans identified with the americas campaign as none were descended from indians or spanish? Surely latinas and latinos, although have a strong mestizo element, are also descended from spanish people from spain?

I wasn't validating his point about American's interest in the game, in fact I disagree with him. If you want to include Amerindians (Latinos) with "Indian," then in fact he's dead wrong, as I'm sure many Latinos will be interested in playing the Aztecs and Mayans, who they identify with much more than Spain, due to being much more ethnically Amerindian than Spanish and usually revering their Amerindian ancestors much more than their Spanish ones, which is what I mean when I say Latinos aren't Spaniards.

Jeez that took forever to write, this whole thing tied my brain in a knot for some reason

[Rhedd]

Whee, I started a debate! ^_^

I didn't really mean to say that Americans wouldn't be at all interested in the Americas campaign, and maybe I overstated the lack of racial identification with the campaign.

I just meant that it's about as likely for an average American to feel culterally connected to that campaign as it is for them to feel a connection to playing the English, or Irish, or Welsh, or Scottish, or Germans, or Italians, or Spanish, or French, or Russians, or Arabs, or any number of factions. And I think it's funny that Europeans don't seem to realize this, and just think, "hey, that campaign has Native Americans in it, so those Americans will all love it!"

[TeutonicKnight]

I guess I'm the exception that proves the rule. After a dismal failure in the Teutonic Campaign, I'm now deep into an Apache game, and finding I'm liking the Americas far more than I thought I would. It's a blast.

Thunder Braves ftw. :)

Oh, and there's a reason that stereotypes exist, even if they are publicly acknowledged...