Americas Campaign: Apache

**fluffsuit** · 10-30-2007, 04:58

darnit. so i guessi'm gonna have to start the campaign all over again after getting so far. i wish there was some way i could just unlock the units. like editing the save file or something. oh well.

**aimlesswanderer** · 11-03-2007, 05:31

My biggest problem is that I have a serious shortage of relos (7 for 16 provinces), due mostly to natural disasters, as my family members seem to react badly if they come into contact with water.... eg 5% of the troops died, but my family member, scout, emissary and assassin all croaked it due to a flood. This has led to lots of captain stacks, which keep going rebel....

I guess they have a valid reason for not washing very often.

**Sheogorath** · 11-10-2007, 09:26

Man those Aztecs are tough...
I find that the AI seems to only concentrate on one unit at a time if your army is small enough. You can inflict some serious damage if your 'runner' is fast enough.

On a side note, I really didnt have that much trouble with the Tarascans. Those 12,000 florins a turn didnt seem to even phase the Aztecs...now my only problem is that the Aztecs are knocking on my doorstep with about twenty full stacks and my friendly Chichimec and Mayan neighbors, although they've broken their alliances with the Aztecs, are not being overly helpful, even though they've got a ton of units hanging around the middle of their territory.

I've got me some horseboys now though, so we'll see about turning the tide, eh?

**DrZoidberg** · 11-10-2007, 17:01

Originally Posted by Sheogorath

Man those Aztecs are tough...
I find that the AI seems to only concentrate on one unit at a time if your army is small enough. You can inflict some serious damage if your 'runner' is fast enough.

On a side note, I really didnt have that much trouble with the Tarascans. Those 12,000 florins a turn didnt seem to even phase the Aztecs...now my only problem is that the Aztecs are knocking on my doorstep with about twenty full stacks and my friendly Chichimec and Mayan neighbors, although they've broken their alliances with the Aztecs, are not being overly helpful, even though they've got a ton of units hanging around the middle of their territory.

I've got me some horseboys now though, so we'll see about turning the tide, eh?

The Aztecs are very tough. But I broke them by attrition. I often lost but since I had more stacks I still won in the end. I used plenty of ranged weapons. I tried to fight them when I had the advantage of terrain. The new aggressive defender attitude you can really play to your advantage. Hit and run doesn't really work since Aztecs are not only tough they're also "very good stamina" and "Excellent moral". Apache horses are not good at fighting, not even hit and run, or charge in the back. I used them to pepper approaching Aztecs to lower their moral, and use them to split their forces to make them more manageable when they reach my main force.

You can also use hit and run on their cities. They need pretty advanced buildings to build any troops of value, so once you take their city, you'll demolish all those buildings, making it harder for him to recruit the hard boys.

When I first attacked them I started by recruiting from my whole kingdom, and by the time my rear cities troops had reached my front my army was huge. It took a while, but I really needed it.

**kitbogha** · 11-10-2007, 17:31

Hi all!
Just joined the site and have been enjoying all the posts on this thread in particular, as I am playing the Apache campaign. It's a great campaign and having been playing Total War for years is maybe my fave yet.
I am on around turn 80 and have finally crushed those pesky Tarascans. I am pondering my next move, which is likely to be against the Chichimec, who , although nominally my allies are getting less friendly due to the high handed way I have been moving armies through their lands to take on our mutual enemies. That's gratitude for you!! I have saved thier bacon a few times. Now it seems a pre-emptive strike may be in order...

**Sheogorath** · 11-10-2007, 17:59

I'll make sure to try that, Zoidburg.
I'm glad the Chichimecs are still around though. Theyre forcing the Aztecs into a single front, since its impossible to move through their territory due to the MASSIVE FREAKING ARMY forming a human wall between my western territories and them :P
So...time to start the Bravespam!

**kitbogha** · 11-10-2007, 18:26

Originally Posted by Sheogorath

I'll make sure to try that, Zoidburg.
I'm glad the Chichimecs are still around though. Theyre forcing the Aztecs into a single front, since its impossible to move through their territory due to the MASSIVE FREAKING ARMY forming a human wall between my western territories and them :P
So...time to start the Bravespam!

The Chichimecs are very handy to keep around as long as they prove useful, let the Aztecs blunt their resources on them and then mop up what's left.

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