Quote Originally Posted by macsen rufus
God, I HATE pride, it is the most irritating vice of all... At least with the 'drinker' line, you end up with "Dead drunk", when thanks to helpful assistants, all his faculties return, and the final trade off is -20 health.
I guess I have been pretty lucky in my games, I mainly get pride-virtue to 'normal' (non-general) units and for them it's just good, because the valour bonus it gives is really useful for them. I just recently got a viking huscarl-unit get both pride and utterly fearless virtues, giving them a +6 valour..
I couldn't agree more with the drunk-line of vices. One of my six-star generals lost most of his stars because of it, and now he is 'drinking himself to death', and I got his stars back but I don't think I'll use him on the battlefield again, he could trip on a rock and kill himself during a fight. Also, inbred-vice is absolutely irritating, I have lost many good generals to that.