EB with BI

[Lysander13]

Also, once they break due to exhaustion from swimming, they'll perish as they try to swim back over the river. Outstanding. A "feature" that should have been postponed until they got it right.

That's funny...and unfortunately very true. But surely in theory the AI having swimming units to attempt to flank your forces on the other side of a river bank sounds good. **Sighs** But as bovi said they didn't get it quite right.

[pezhetairoi]

Just a moment of confusion here, can we play EB on the BI platform yet? I'm really not clear on this because I'm still playing on the original RTW.exe instead of the BI.exe. Am I missing a hell lot, or has all this not yet been implemented?

[Bootsiuv]

Just a moment of confusion here, can we play EB on the BI platform yet? I'm really not clear on this because I'm still playing on the original RTW.exe instead of the BI.exe. Am I missing a hell lot, or has all this not yet been implemented?

There is an unofficial mod by ferromancer here

EB with BI isn't supported by EB officially though, and never will be, if I'm not mistaken (which isn't a big deal AFAIK, aside from naval invasions, it really doesn't offer much).

[pezhetairoi]

I have installed it ;) Thanks!

[Cash Staks]

Thanks for the bits of extra information on the swimming ability. I guess I'm not really missing out on that much in that department. It is a pity that CA didn't get it to work.

In a sort of different vein, are the sheildwall and schiltrom(sp.) formations something to write home about? I know everyone says the slightly improved AI and naval invasions make a better campaign, but are these new formations anything to get excited about?

[jhhowell]

In a sort of different vein, are the sheildwall and schiltrom(sp.) formations something to write home about? I know everyone says the slightly improved AI and naval invasions make a better campaign, but are these new formations anything to get excited about?

Shieldwall is awesome, schiltrom is not very useful. For EB purposes, including shieldwall would introduce significant unit balance issues. For example, classical hoplites seem like a logical unit to have shieldwall. Assuming they're presently balanced, adding shieldwall would make them way too powerful (quite possibly better than thorakitai, Bactrian Agema, etc.). There might be a minimod where someone has figured this stuff out.

[mcantu]

The good thing about a unit with shieldwall is that they will push themselves between the spears of a phalanx....

[Bootsiuv]

Unfortunately, because shieldwall gives a defensive bonus, it does imbalance certain units....and I know the team has spent countless hours balancing units in EB.

That being said, Ferromancer's minimod gives you the option of just porting EB to BI without adding the formations features. I would strongly recommend just using Ferromancer's minimod to port EB to BI without changing the EDU's. You won't get his slinger fix, but that can't be that hard to fix yourself (I'm uncertain of how at the moment, but I do intend to find out how and fix it myself).