Least favorite TW game

[ciprianrusu]

First game i have played was MTW. It was the best game i have ever played until then. After that i bought Shogun and i was also impressed, although i didn't like it as much as MTW(because of the time period and the fact that in Shogun you were limited to only one nation-but let's remember that it was the first game of the series). Then i bought the VI expansion for MTW and was again in the 7'th heaven:. Great game, great atmosphere. When Rome came out, i didn't had a graphic card good enough to let me paly the game, so i bought a new one. I was impressed by the new graphic, and the controls, but i was disappointed by the fact that the battles were so short - in MTW i had battles that ended after more than 4 hours. In RTW, 20 min. tops and it's over. When they released BI i evidently went out and bought that. A bit better than RTW, but i didn't liked the era. When Alexander was out, i thought to myself, this time they surely got it right, right? Wrong! It was the worst expansion of the series. Why do you have to rush things like that? No diplomacy, no nothing. Just a continuous dash to the finish line.

PS: I voted Alexander as the worst expansion of the series. Don't get me wrong. Is not a bad game, just that compared to the others in TW, is the last in my preference list. Compared to other strategy games is very good, but not if you compered it to the others.

[caravel]

RTW/BI/Alex is the same game, so I voted for all three. If the game is bad, expansions rarely fix it. RTW had all the building blocks of a good game but CA seem to have failed to get it all together for the release day. It's a "fun" game for a few of the high speed arcade like battles but is so severely imbalanced that that's about it. It's a very "gamey" game if that makes sense? With STW/MTW it didn't feel like you were playing a game at all, more of a "simulation"/strategy. I haven't bothered with M2TW as I didn't like RTW's campaign map, this pretty much rules me out of all future TWs as well.

[Martok]

RTW had all the building blocks of a good game but CA seem to have failed to get it all together for the release day. It's a "fun" game for a few of the high speed arcade like battles but is so severely imbalanced that that's about it. It's a very "gamey" game if that makes sense? With STW/MTW it didn't feel like you were playing a game at all, more of a "simulation"/strategy.

Well said. The first two games (particularly Shogun) have always felt more "real" to me, with great atmosphere and replaybility.

On the other hand, RTW just feels like a game -- it quite simply lacks the depth and immersion of its predecessors. I can't rate Rome's expansions, having never played them. As Caravel pointed out, expansions only rarely fix the original title, so I've never bothered with them.

I've not played Medieval 2 enough to really get a proper feel for it. My impressions thus far is that it's at least marginally better than Rome, but still nowhere near its older brother (MTW). I've not played the game since before the 1.2 patch was released, however, so perhaps it's significantly improved since then.

Regardless, I voted Rome.

[Noir]

Originally posted by Caravel
RTW/BI/Alex is the same game, so I voted for all three. If the game is bad, expansions rarely fix it. RTW had all the building blocks of a good game but CA seem to have failed to get it all together for the release day. It's a "fun" game for a few of the high speed arcade like battles but is so severely imbalanced that that's about it. It's a very "gamey" game if that makes sense? With STW/MTW it didn't feel like you were playing a game at all, more of a "simulation"/strategy.

I have the same opinion and yet.. try Alexander just once.. you won't be...dissapointed

[Bootsiuv]

I'm surprised at how many people voted Rome...

I think the engine was an improvement, as was the campaign map. Vanilla Rome sort of sucks, but mods like EB and XGM have fixed the fast battles problem.

I did thouroughly enjoy M:TW.

I haven't played much of M2:TW, but, due to it being so buggy and few, if any, full conversion mods, I have to vote for it. Once mods like Medieval Arcturoso and EB2 come out, my answer will likely change to M:TW. I'll always love Rome with EB, but I prefer classical history to medieval.