The Secret Formula [Concluded]

[Csargo]

Do I win?

[shlin28]

?What?
And will my vote be counted?

[Csargo]

Personally, I think Ichigo is very scummy, voting no lynch when he could have just abstained. Unvote, Vote Ichigo

New Tally

Ichigo: 3 (Sapi, Sasaki, Shlin)
CountA: 2 (Brave, Hepcat)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)
RoadKill: 2 (Enoch, Stig)
Beefy: 2 (Xdeath, Zorg)
Pever: 2 (FactionHeir, Twilight)

Twilight: 1 (Pever)
Enoch: 1 (RoadKill)
Factionheir: 1 (Beefy)
Gibson: 1 (CountA)
Husar: 1 (Sigurd)
Sarathos: 1 (Xiahou)
Dutch Guy: 1 (Inca man)
No Lynch: 1 (Ichigo)
Abstains: 8 (GH, Haude, North, Omanes, Prole, Amazing, Dutch, Martok)
Not Voting: 11 (Dutch, Gibson, gkhaan, Jubal, KillF, KingW, Sarathos, Tiberius, Tran, Warmaster, Zain)

Why abstain? Unvote:, Vote:Sasaki I can't vote No Lynch.

[shlin28]

Blatant attempt to try and survive. LYNCH ICHIGO!!!

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Unvote: Abstain; Vote: shlin28

You seem very eager to select a target for the most ridiculous of reasons. Much too eager in my opinion.

[Andres]

By the time I announced that the votes will be counted, there was a tie between CA, Sasaki, RK, TB, Beefy, Pever and Ichigo.

Shlin was the first to vote and broke the tie.

Stand by for execution.

[Csargo]

@Shlin

[Andres]

Day 1 conclusion - There will be some cleaning to do...

Andres was asleep.

“Sir?”, the union man said.

“Hmmm…”

“Sir!”

“Later honey, later…”

“But sir…”

Andres murmured: “Go away, I’m asleep…”

“But sir, you cannot be asleep, you are talking to me.”

“Annoying union man, need to torture him…”

“But our contracts sir!”

“That’s it! I’ve had enough of this!” All of the sudden the angry captain was at his feet and grabbed the union man by his throat. “Please tell me you guys choose to lynch him, this annoying little pestilence, this…”

“Sir, please, don’t break the no swearing regulations!”

“The what?”

“Well, since the last negotiations with the employer, it is no longer allowed to use swear words against us, mercenaries.”

Andres started to cry

“I’m sorry for upsetting you sir, but I do have some good news. We think we have found one of the murderers.”

Andres grinned. “You mean that you found a traitor amongst us? Who is he?”

“It’s Ichigo sir.”

“Ichigo?” Andres seemed surprised. “What did he do wrong?”

“Eh, he didn’t do anything wrong actually, but eh…”

“Ok, ok. We don’t want to state that democracy has failed, do we?”

“Eh, no sir, off course not. It is the best…”

“So, it is within all regulations to say that Ichigo is offically a traitor?”

“Democracy has decided he is, sir.”

“He is no longer a mercenary than?”

“I think that statement is correct sir.”

“Aha, this means I have somebody to torture.”

“But sir, the Human Rights…”

“Now come on, you can hardly say that this cruel murderer is human…”

The mercenaries cheered for their leader. Well, not all of them.

“Ichigo, you have been found guilty of treason and blahblahblah. Tie him up and bring him here.”

The mercenaries dropped the tied up Ichigo on Andres’s feet. Ichigo started to scream: "It's a failure! Democracy is a failure. It's...!" "Gag him", Andres said, "he's breaking certain regulations." The Union man nodded in agreement.

Andres dragged poor Ichigo into the bunker.

The screaming went on for hours. The mercenaries stared at the door in agony. Finally, Andres came outside. He was covered in blood, brains, pieces of bone…

He pointed his finger at the union man: “You, go inside and clean the damn place”.

“But…”

“You want me to come with you?”, the sadistic captain said with a big smile on his face.

“No Sir! Consider it cleaned sir!”



Tally

Ichigo: 3 (Sapi, Sasaki, Shlin28)
CountA: 2 (Brave, Hepcat)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)
RoadKill: 2 (Enoch, Stig)
Beefy: 2 (Xdeath, Zorg)
Pever: 2 (FactionHeir, Twilight)

Twilight: 1 (Pever)
Enoch: 1 (RoadKill)
Factionheir: 1 (Beefy)
Gibson: 1 (CountA)
Husar: 1 (Sigurd)
Sarathos: 1 (Xiahou)
Dutch Guy: 1 (Garcilaso)
Xiahou : 1 (Jubal)

Abstains: 11 (Ichigo, Haudegen, GH, North, Omanes, Prole, Amazing, Dutch, KingWarman, Tiberius, Martok)
Not Voting: 7 (KF, Gibson, gkhaan, Jubal, Sarathos, Tran, Zain)

Alive (38)

Omanes
Stig
GH
Sasaki
KingWarman
Warmaster Horus
greaterkhaan
FactionHeir
Sigurd
Proletariat
Brave Sir Robin
Roadkill
Shlin28
woad&fangs
TwilightBlade
Killfr3nzy
pevergreen
Sarathos
Husar
Beefy187
gibsonsg91921
CountArach
Martok
Xdeathfire
Garcilaso
Tiberius of the Drake
sapi
Tran
Northnovas
Xiahou
Hepcat
The Amazing Me
Enoch
Dutch_guy
Jubal Barca
Haudegen
Zain
Zorg

Lynched (1)

Ichigo

Killed
0

WoG
0

It's night. PM's please.

ANNOUNCEMENT:

Due to unexpected circumstances in real life, I won't be able to be online tomorrow evening (my timezone is GMT +1). To keep the game on shedule, the next night phase will end within +/- 16 hours from now, that is at 3.00 pm (GMT +1), Saturday afternoon.

[Stig]

Unvote: Roadkill, Vote: Shlin

Don't try to get Ichigo lynched you mafiascum

[Andres]

Unvote: Roadkill, Vote: Shlin

Don't try to get Ichigo lynched you mafiascum

Sorry, too late.

[shlin28]

Seriously, whats so suspicious about me putting a vote on Ichigo? He voted for No Lynch, which was pointless in my opinion, as the Abstain option was better, and by voting No Lynch, it would never change the course of the game, as two people are not gonna appear suddenly and vote No Lynch. It would be better to vote for someone like CountArach or Roadkill, at least that would achieve something, no lynch does nothing.

And some of his posts:

Vote:Ichigo He's a scummy bas...Oh wait Unvote:Ichigo, Vote:Sasaki He's always scummy

Nothing useful, since this vote was tradition.

Hey look at it this way. If we all bandwagon Sasaki now we won't have to listen to his false detective reveals.

Nothing useful still.

You're scared of Sasaki. tsk tsk

If you bandwagon him he is no threat.

Unvote:Sasaki, Vote:Zorg You have a role!!!
FoS:Andres Invisibility suspiciously scummy.

Trying to nail it on a newbie, did Zorg actually do anything?

You wasted a lot of time with those PM's. If you're going to post it in the thread then seems pointless.
@Stig: It's one vote shouldn't freak out.

This is even worse. If Andres didnt post the PMs up, the mafia could try and pretend to be a townie, since nobody would know if their townie pms were identical or not. Also, someone could try to say something like "I didnt get a pm, am i a townie?" in order to prove their innocence.

Sorry if my explaination was too long winded (I'm learning to analyse posts , I've got some vague ideas on Mafia 7 already, and will probably post them during the next day phase), and if my vote were not considered helpful, but honestly I do believe Ichigo is mafia. Should you not believe me, feel free to bandwagon me for next round.

[Stig]

Doesn't matter, we'll take Shlin next round. Lynching someone because he voted No Lynch.

To me No Lynch is the same as Abstaining, end of story. But you had the worst reason ever to vote someone. I'd say we bandwagon you next day.

[Andres]

[Csargo]

Seriously, whats so suspicious about me putting a vote on Ichigo? He voted for No Lynch, which was pointless in my opinion, as the Abstain option was better, and by voting No Lynch, it would never change the course of the game, as two people are not gonna appear suddenly and vote No Lynch. It would be better to vote for someone like CountArach or Roadkill, at least that would achieve something, no lynch does nothing.

And some of his posts:

Nothing useful, since this vote was tradition.

Nothing useful still.



Trying to nail it on a newbie, did Zorg actually do anything?

This is even worse. If Andres didnt post the PMs up, the mafia could try and pretend to be a townie, since nobody would know if their townie pms were identical or not. Also, someone could try to say something like "I didnt get a pm, am i a townie?" in order to prove their innocence.

Sorry if my explaination was too long winded (I'm learning to analyse posts , I've got some vague ideas on Mafia 7 already, and will probably post them during the next day phase), and if my vote were not considered helpful, but honestly I do believe Ichigo is mafia. Should you not believe me, feel free to bandwagon me for next round.

It's the first round theirs nothing of any use in the first round. How is abstain better than No Lynch? Abstain is a waste of a vote it does nothing. Have fun.

[shlin28]

Doesn't matter, we'll take Shlin next round. Lynching someone because he voted No Lynch.

To me No Lynch is the same as Abstaining, end of story. But you had the worst reason ever to vote someone. I'd say we bandwagon you next day.

Thats not not very nice...

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Don't see anything scummy about shlin's action.

Voting no lynch is anti-town. So is abstaining.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You could argue that he was saving his partner. But if you look at the vote layout, any of them could have saved themselves by switching.

Ichigo: 3 (Sapi, Sasaki, Shlin28)
CountA: 2 (Brave, Hepcat)
Sasaki: 2 (Husar, W&F)
RoadKill: 2 (Enoch, Stig)
Beefy: 2 (Xdeath, Zorg)
Pever: 2 (FactionHeir, Twilight)

[Csargo]

Don't see anything scummy about shlin's action.

Voting no lynch is anti-town. So is abstaining.

How is voting No Lynch anti-town?

[GeneralHankerchief]

How is voting No Lynch anti-town?

Because Sasaki is scruplously sticking to his blanket belief that a snowball's chance of lynching a guilty person is better than no chance at all.

Most games, I'm with him. But here, in the first round of a game where there haven't been kills yet, and the fact that the mafia are almost impossible to lynch in Round 1 anyway, he's wrong. The mafia can easily hide in the shadows/manipulate events at their leisure. Better to just *gasp!* not lynch anyone than lynch an innocent and have it hurt us later on.

[shlin28]

Sorry if I did anything wrong by voting Ichigo at the last minute

[Hepcat]

Well it had to be someone, and besides didn't it say that voting “no lynch” is not allowed in the rules?

[Csargo]

Well it had to be someone, and besides didn't it say that voting “no lynch” is not allowed in the rules?

Why abstain? Unvote:, Vote:Sasaki I can't vote No Lynch.

I was not mafia, you have failed.

[CountArach]

Voting “no lynch” is not allowed. Posting without voting will be counted as an abstain vote.

So yeah, Hepcat you are right.

Because Sasaki is scruplously sticking to his blanket belief that a snowball's chance of lynching a guilty person is better than no chance at all.

But a snowballs chance IS better than no chance at all.

[GeneralHankerchief]

But a snowballs chance IS better than no chance at all.

Read the second paragraph of my post.

[Beefy187]

Voting nolynch= abstain

there was 11 other people who voted abstain. and 7 other who didnt even vote.. So "He voted no lynch" cant be the reason to lynch Ichigo

Lets hope we got this lynch right..

[RoadKill]

Voting Abstain is not anti-town. You basically have 2/35 chance of lynching the right person. I consider that extremly low, so sometimes if there isn't enough evidence to lynch someone, I would rather abstain then kill a townie.

[Tratorix]

Lets hope we got this lynch right..

Wouldn't count on it Beefy. With 39 people playing, we had a 5% chance of lynching a mafia member that round. By the way, we also had a 5% chance of killing the doctor or detective.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Because Sasaki is scruplously sticking to his blanket belief that a snowball's chance of lynching a guilty person is better than no chance at all.

Most games, I'm with him. But here, in the first round of a game where there haven't been kills yet, and the fact that the mafia are almost impossible to lynch in Round 1 anyway, he's wrong. The mafia can easily hide in the shadows/manipulate events at their leisure. Better to just *gasp!* not lynch anyone than lynch an innocent and have it hurt us later on.

First 2 kills don't give you any real information. If they are hiding in the shadows then maybe we can notice them later. You don't know that it will hurt us later on, WoG is unpredictable.

[Hepcat]

Voting nolynch= abstain

there was 11 other people who voted abstain. and 7 other who didnt even vote.. So "He voted no lynch" cant be the reason to lynch Ichigo

Lets hope we got this lynch right..

Did I say it was reason to lynch him? No, but we had to lynch someone, would you have preferred everyone abstain so that it completely random who got lynched? I know this round was completely unjustified but I'm sure you prefer it this way than just someone random getting knocked off too.

[Beefy187]

nah i was talking about Shlin.No need to get paranoid about what i say just yet..