Official 2007-08 NFL thread

[seireikhaan]

GAH!

[Ice]

4th and 5...

Come on, HOLD!

Nope

[seireikhaan]

[Ice]

rofl

Hail Mary was 2 yards short. Lolz.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The coaches lost that for the ravens. With the time out called when they'd won the game, then the timeout wasted on the challenge. 35 yards of penalty didn't help mind you.

That hail mary pass was beautiful to see though.

[Ramses II CP]

Billick deserved that loss. He had the game won and, as usual, he out-thought himself and screwed over his team. Twice. I mean, what kind of fool gives Belicheck more time to scheme up a good fourth down play, gives the offensive line more rest, and steals the momentum from a D that's just had a great stop on 3rd down? I disagreed with the D call after the false start too, but only because after that much down time you've got to gamble and bring the heat, otherwise, as we saw, not getting to Brady means giving up the first down.

Credit the Pats though, when it counted they stopped McGahee and shored up the middle of the D. I didn't think they could do it. I can't even tell you what they changed, but they did it. The Eagles game wasn't a blueprint because very few teams actually can blitz the way they do, but this game could be a blueprint.

Very reminiscent of the '05 Colts. They didn't just forget to run the ball on O, they forgot how to defend the run on D. Now will the Pats pick the running game back up, on both sides, or is Pittsburg going to smash their way to victory? Big, big factor is whether or not Davenport plays for the Steelers.

[DemonArchangel]

I'm somewhat convinced the only way to stop the New England Patriots will be to sneak a sniper into the stands at next week's game.

Really, to be honest, you couldn't ask any more of the Ravens than what they did tonight.

[Odin]

And the Pats survive....

On to 3 home games in a row. Steelers are a fine team should be a good game. Pats stole one last night that should have been a loss.

Thanks Mr Billick !

[scotchedpommes]

Well, I suppose that made up for the dead game I watched last time. Interesting
stuff. And Mr. McGahee deserves a mention for name alone, if not for the fact
that he seemed impressive to an outside observer who knows relatively little
about the sport.

[KukriKhan]

That was actually, to me, the finest game to watch, as a spectator, that I've seen in the last 5 years. It had everything: unexpected challenge from an underdog, players overcoming handicaps imposed by their bosses (coaches), an actual RUNNING game, passes thrown as if shot out of RPG's, 'Hail Mary' passes - oh the drama.

On the down side: could the commentators have been more biased? Jeez. It was kinda funny to hear them squirm when it became distinctly possible that Baltimore could actually take the game - then gush with relief when Brady began his famed 2-minute drill. Boy, that guy (Brady) is one heckuva closer.

[Odin]

That was actually, to me, the finest game to watch, as a spectator, that I've seen in the last 5 years. It had everything: unexpected challenge from an underdog, players overcoming handicaps imposed by their bosses (coaches), an actual RUNNING game, passes thrown as if shot out of RPG's, 'Hail Mary' passes - oh the drama.

On the down side: could the commentators have been more biased? Jeez. It was kinda funny to hear them squirm when it became distinctly possible that Baltimore could actually take the game - then gush with relief when Brady began his famed 2-minute drill. Boy, that guy (Brady) is one heckuva closer.

It was entertaining but I think next weeks showdown of the Pats Steelers will be pretty dam good too. The Pats cant stop the run apparantly and Pittsburgh can run the ball.

[Decker]

That was actually, to me, the finest game to watch, as a spectator, that I've seen in the last 5 years. It had everything: unexpected challenge from an underdog, players overcoming handicaps imposed by their bosses (coaches), an actual RUNNING game, passes thrown as if shot out of RPG's, 'Hail Mary' passes - oh the drama.

Indeed it was. Probably what the NFL is all about in one game...O and you forgot drama and controversy too!

On the down side: could the commentators have been more biased? Jeez. It was kinda funny to hear them squirm when it became distinctly possible that Baltimore could actually take the game - then gush with relief when Brady began his famed 2-minute drill. Boy, that guy (Brady) is one heckuva closer.

O and those (mainly the two that never touch the grid iron) commentators suck. I think that ESPN has actually ruined the sport and have taken away from the sport by turning it into a business. I wish we had decent commentators that just call the game and don't bomb us with stats, yelling, arguing, stupid one-sided commentary. Switching of allegiance mid-game. These guys are really bad and annoying.

And as for the game. The coaches blew it BAD! They already screwed up with the time out and then decide not to rush Brady when it obviously was working I coulda called a better game

[Odin]

The coaches blew it BAD! They already screwed up with the time out and then decide not to rush Brady when it obviously was working I coulda called a better game

Yes, as I have said before the best way to disrupt the patriots is blitz and collapse the pocket forcing them to run the ball. Every team who has done that has had a shot at winning.

You dont blitz and leave in a dime package the pats O line is too good they will buy brady that couple extra seconds and thats a killer with this recieving core.

You want to beat the pats you have to take your chances and blitz them.

[Decker]

Yes, as I have said before the best way to disrupt the patriots is blitz and collapse the pocket forcing them to run the ball. Every team who has done that has had a shot at winning.

You dont blitz and leave in a dime package the pats O line is too good they will buy brady that couple extra seconds and thats a killer with this recieving core.

You want to beat the pats you have to take your chances and blitz them.

Indeed. And not to mention prevent defense which has a habit of losing games for many teams that are in a bind. Annnyhoo, lets hope the noose tightens in their next game eh?..

[Odin]

Indeed. And not to mention prevent defense which has a habit of losing games for many teams that are in a bind. Annnyhoo, lets hope the noose tightens in their next game eh?..

Well no lets not hope that. My first patriots game was in the mid 70's. I've been a pats fan for a long, long time. For me Its all about winning superbowls.

[seireikhaan]

Eeks. 37-7 at halftime. Ravens only TD coming on a kick return. Ouch. Although to be fair, its not surprising the Ravens are drained after that Monday game against the Patsies.

[RoadKill]

42 - 24 Sehawks win again

I'm sensing Super Bowl again.

[Ramses II CP]

You know, I kinda rooted for the Colts when they made their run at undefeated. I wish I could root for the Pats to do it, but the cheating thing makes it impossible, plus I don't want Moss to collect a ring.

Raiders line play got exposed today on both sides of the ball, but then we knew Green Bay's O line was good. It's disheartening that Russel didn't get a chance to play, but that was more or less guaranteed by putting him on 3rd string for the start. The defense looked cold too, stiff, slow, unable to keep up. I'm hoping that was the weather rather than age catching up.

[Decker]

Raiders line play got exposed today on both sides of the ball, but then we knew Green Bay's O line was good. It's disheartening that Russel didn't get a chance to play, but that was more or less guaranteed by putting him on 3rd string for the start. The defense looked cold too, stiff, slow, unable to keep up. I'm hoping that was the weather rather than age catching up.

Don't we all

[Martok]

....And my Vikings continue to roll! Granted the 49ers aren't the greatest team around, but we still managed to win in San Francisco (for the first time in 19 years, no less) despite AP being held to a paltry 3 yards on the ground. If Tavares keeps on as he has the last 3-4 games, he might actually start being called a good quarterback!

We've won 4 in a row now, and only have to win 2 of the final 3 games to secure the last wild-card spot in the playoffs. Not bad for a team that only a month ago, everyone (including myself) had given up for dead.


(Say, no one knows if Hell as frozen over, has it? )

[woad&fangs]

(Say, no one knows if Hell as frozen over, has it? )

Wisconsin? Yes, in fact we have had quite a bit of snow and ice lately.

I wish you guys the best of luck in reaching the playoffs. Just remember that you guys will be stuck with Childress as long as they keep winning.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Just remember that you guys will be stuck with Childress as long as they keep winning.

Said it once and I'll say it again: Wanna swap, Martok?

Say what you want about Childress, but at least he knows when to run the ing ball! Our best player, Westbrook, is still getting way less touches than he deserves nearly 3 years after he's proven that he can do stuff when he's got the ball.

[Martok]

Wisconsin? Yes, in fact we have had quite a bit of snow and ice lately.

I wish you guys the best of luck in reaching the playoffs. Just remember that you guys will be stuck with Childress as long as they keep winning.

*sighs* Yeah, I know. Every silver lining has a dark cloud....

Said it once and I'll say it again: Wanna swap, Martok?

To be honest, yes I still would. Childress deserves very little credit for the team's recent success -- it has far more to do with Tavares finally learning how to "manage the game" (to borrow a phrase I've heard so often lately) and the secondary improving their pass defense. I firmly believe that Reid could do more with less.

Say what you want about Childress, but at least he knows when to run the ing ball! Our best player, Westbrook, is still getting way less touches than he deserves nearly 3 years after he's proven that he can do stuff when he's got the ball.

That's true, and I've wondered about that as well. Maybe Andy doesn't trust your guys' O-line to create running lanes for him? I don't know.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Oh wow... looks like Bobby Petrino just resigned.

Man, I feel sorry for the Falcons. First they lose Vick, then Petrino... I thought he would've lasted at least a year. He did kind of have a free pass for this season, then he'd nab his Louisville QB in the draft and start afresh.

Note to Eagles: When searching for Reid's replacement, don't pick a big-name college coach.

-edit- Oh, and because I have nothing better to do, I'm just wondering why the daisy this story is featured on ESPN.

[woad&fangs]

Update from Hell:
My vehicle is now unstuck
5 inches of snow between last night and today so we got a snowday
My snowblower is working now
Ryan Grant lead the league in rushing yards this week
Jennings and Driver are still the most bad*** recievers in the NFL
Favre could get knocked out of a game with a ruptured heart and still manage to start the next game
Green Bay clinched the NFC north

Ain't Hell lovely this time of year.

[Ramses II CP]

Petrino made the right call. It was either this, or get rid of all his veterans, because they stopped listening to him about 6 weeks ago, and rightly so. He didn't consult with any of them on, well, anything, and really didn't even want to hear their opinions. That might work in college where, to some extent, the players are still kids, but in the NFL they're men, and quite a few of them make more money and mean more to the team than Petrino. Players need discipline, but they also need to be part of the process.

College success means zilch in the NFL. At a big college you get to schedule cakewalk teams for 1/3-1/2 your games, you get to play more than half your games at home, and there's no such thing as a salary cap. In the NFL you have to play fair against other good teams every game. Not many of the college guys can adapt to that.

[ShadesWolf]

Pats all the way

they r a different league at moment 19-0

[GeneralHankerchief]

Eagles win 10-6 over Dallas!

The season is officially not a total loss.

[woad&fangs]

Eagles win 10-6 over Dallas!

The season is officially not a total loss.

Hooray!!! Now the Pack has a shot at home field advantage in the playoffs. Plus we now know that all we have to do to beat them is to invite Jessica Simpson to the game.

Playoff berths clinched:
nfc north: Packers
nfc south: Buccaneers
nfc east: Cowboys
nfc west: Seahawks

afc east: Patriots
playoff spot: Colts

[Xehh II]

No! I refuse to accept that the Eagles could beat the Cowboys!

Can't wait for the Bears-Vikings game though.