How to make money!

[PershsNhpios]

Not true at all sah.

I havent even managed to build up an army, I am retrying my Casse campaign, however it happened again!

You see I also have just sat on my barbarian ass and saved money and built the correct structures.
However as the Sweboz and the Casse, I have been constantly besieged by mostly full-stacks of Independents! ! !

My Getai campaign was very fun, however long it lasted, I did very well in defeating the Eleutheroi and I expanded very quickly over 4 settlements in a year. I kept out of debt, and then the kingdom of Epeiros migrated north! !

Anyway, as far as the Casse and other northern tribes go, it's sounds like it's partly a matter of luck as to whether your start is shaky or downright devastating!
I love it! I'll persevere then!

However if anyone wants to post their strategies briefly on the beginnings of finance and expansion for any and all factions, I would still very much like to hear them.

[Beefy187]

Casse: Celtic slingers is all you need at the beginning
Gauls: Escape to Briton to get away from Romans
Baktria: Get Kophen and blitz the small settlement on the north east.
Getai: Conquer settlement with your starting force. When Makedon gets weak go for Pella
Pontus: You could try runaway to Cremia. Or just get the settlement on the north east.
Carthys and Romans: Just beat everyone you meet
Epeiros: Blitz Pella
Makedon: Take out the lousy Koinons early. Then go after Epeirus
Koinon: Transport your army in Sparta and combine it with Athenian one
Lusotanna: Take out Carthage early. Makes your life much easier


Thats my strategy. Sorry its not that great

[sgsandor]

lemme say I love EB but i cheat like mad, cause who wouldnt if you could? I am about to start a new campaign no cheating what so ever with the Romani but i have to say cheating my way through a few campaigns def showed me how things work in Eb...what can I say I was learning and having fun!
Ouch those stones frigin' hurt guys stop that lol

[pezhetairoi]

well, i cheat all the time too, but only to manipulate political situations so no power gets annihilated until I do the annihilating. The stones are good, so use them. I usually like to burst out and blitz various towns while they are still weak and haven't started building stacks yet, and destroying them fast till I turn a profit, then settling down. I don't understand how we can sit tight and just build income-generating buildings when you can't even turn a profit that will allow you to keep building income-generating buildings. You wouldn't last past turn 1 that way unless you disbanded some troops.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

I'll cheat all the time, but only for role playing and AI shepherding. I 'move_character' cheat to do things like move generals to their new post. It shouldn't take a single guy two years to move from one side of my empire to the other. I'll also 'character_reset' to move an army that is operating within a single province. Like when I have a city garrison fight rebels and they can't quite make it back to the city.

I also use tons of cheats to get the AI to do what I want. A command I use in nearly every campaign is:

create_unit Pella "hellenistic infantry heavy pezhetairoi" 5 1 1 1

..when KH inevitably reduces Mak to just Pella and Mytilene.

[PershsNhpios]

Hmm, in my campaign Makedonia has taken most of Peloponnesus!
Anyway, I now understand how to build an empire, I knew I should of persevered with the barbarians and started on the hard factions.
I was right, by 250 BCE in my campaign I conquered Britannia and Ireland.

The trick was to use every dirty trick you could with your units, because initially you just don't have the resources to play heroically with great battle lines.





Did someone say something about manipulating the AI??????
How do I get force_diplomacy accept to work??
Oh please tell me the secrets of this, if I cannot make realistic deals with the AI, I will make house rules for myself (i.e. paying 10000 for each forced deal), and cheat to force them to be reasonable!

I would greatly appreciate anyone who can help me here, as I do not cheat otherwise, I think it is wrong in this mod as the team has put too much (voluntary!) effort into immersing every possible part of classical warfare into their project to cheat for success.
I did not even want to cheat on diplomacy at first, but some responses, while others are realistic, throw me out of the illusion.
Other things like the battle AI mistakes, I can forgive.

I beg ye, who art so handsome and wise in ye ways of dirty cheating, to assist me in my plight!

[The Celtic Viking]

For force diplomacy, install this neat little mod: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=80763. I use it all the time when the AI is too idiotic in the diplomacy section (such as when they will refuse trade rights only because they just refused to ally with me).