Shieldwall

**Reno Melitensis** · 09-08-2007, 15:26

If you installed a non official EB mod, like Darth or others, those changes are for EB with BI.

Cheers.

**Son of Perun** · 09-08-2007, 17:41

I wasn't clear enough. I just want to know which units in EB with BI should use shieldwall (because they used it historically).

**Foot** · 09-08-2007, 17:44

Using shieldwall from BI on units in EB without altering the original EB stats is unadvisable as it will imbalance those units.

Foot

**Son of Perun** · 09-08-2007, 18:26

Then spear-armed units are disadvantaged. For example germanic lancemen are useless without shielwall.
BTW, has anyone made minimod to rebalance EB for BI?

**Bootsiuv** · 09-09-2007, 15:13

Originally Posted by Foot

Using shieldwall from BI on units in EB without altering the original EB stats is unadvisable as it will imbalance those units.

Foot

Just out of curiousity, why? I'm just thinking about it....shieldwall doesn't do that much does it? What I mean is, it just brings guys closer together and there aren't any defensive bonuses given, are there?

Once again, this is simply out of curiosity, and I'm not disagreeing with you or anything. It just got me wondering if BI's shieldwall gives a + to defense stats.

**bovi** · 09-09-2007, 15:39

There's a plus to the defence stats

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**Bootsiuv** · 09-09-2007, 15:43

Thanks, Bovi. :)

Yes, that would probably imbalance all of your guy's hard balancing work. Maybe I won't use the BI.exe. :(

**Spoofa** · 09-09-2007, 16:06

why? BI.exe alone, even without shieldwall and things helps alot what with the AI and such.

**Ferromancer** · 09-08-2007, 18:48

Originally Posted by Son of Perun

I wasn't clear enough. I just want to know which units in EB with BI should use shieldwall (because they used it historically).

If you used my installer to get EB working in BI, no units should have both schiltrom and shieldwall (that would be a bug on my part). If so, please tell me which unit it is. For other units, non-skirmisher units with large shields can shield wall. Spear units that have cavarly bonuses, and do not have shield wall, can use the schiltrom.

I haven't tried turning on both BI shieldwall and EB pseudoshieldwall at the same time, but I don't recommend it. I *should* disable the pseudoshieldwall in the txt file and restore the loose formation, but I have no idea how to do that . Any help would be appreciated.

EDIT: the installer I'm talking about is this one: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=88717