Rugby World Cup Political Side Debate: My code is older then your code.

**Papewaio** · 09-09-2007, 00:37

Instead of spoiling the frontroom Rugby World Cup thread with this debate of which sport came from which one, play the ball here.

From Wiki:

Both American football and soccer have their origins in varieties of football played in the United Kingdom in the mid-19th century. American football is directly descended from rugby football. The majority of the plays in a typical American football game involve handling the ball rather than kicking it.

Australian Football League:

Australian rules football dates back to 1858, when Tom Wills began to devise the rules of the code. Melbourne Football Club was formed on August 7, 1858. On May 17, 1859, at the Parade Hotel in East Melbourne, Wills, W.J. Hammersley and J.B. Thompson wrote the first set of written rules for Australian rules football. By 1866, several other clubs had also adopted an updated version of Melbourne's rules. In 1877, the amateur Victorian Football Association was established.

Enjoy the debate.

**Boyar Son** · 09-09-2007, 02:48

There was many flaws in rugby, so much so that it was NO fun. In fact the only teams left in rugby were elementary schools and prison teams. Then with the reformations and outlawing of the original form of rugby, American Football was born, being one of the most popular sports in the land of the free, home of the brave (US). while, poor europeans were stuck with the original (they wont switch for some reason). You guys have my sympathies.

**Pannonian** · 09-09-2007, 03:34

Originally Posted by K COSSACK

There was many flaws in rugby, so much so that it was NO fun. In fact the only teams left in rugby were elementary schools and prison teams. Then with the reformations and outlawing of the original form of rugby, American Football was born, being one of the most popular sports in the land of the free, home of the brave (US). while, poor europeans were stuck with the original (they wont switch for some reason). You guys have my sympathies.

Any cites for this history?

**Boyar Son** · 09-09-2007, 03:50

Why cite?

you dont believe

1. US football is popular here

2. rugby isnt fun here so we ditched it

3. we're the land of the free, home of the brave

4. u have my sympathies

c'mon!

**Pannonian** · 09-09-2007, 03:59

Originally Posted by K COSSACK

Why cite?

you dont believe

1. US football is popular here

2. rugby isnt fun here so we ditched it

3. we're the land of the free, home of the brave

4. u have my sympathies

c'mon!

Those 4 points have nothing to do with the history you described. Please provide a source detailing that this was how the games historically progressed as described in your earlier post.

**Boyar Son** · 09-09-2007, 04:26

Originally Posted by Pannonian

Those 4 points have nothing to do with the history you described. Please provide a source detailing that this was how the games historically progressed as described in your earlier post.

It obviously does pannanion, please....

1. read my first, than second post

2. mission accomplished

you know just about all these points are true.

its like asking,

"whats englands common language?"

"english"

"plz provide a source"

you see, my points are well known, and asking for a source is well, unescessary

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 09-09-2007, 20:30

Originally Posted by K COSSACK

1. US football is popular here

I couldn't argue with that if I wanted to.

Originally Posted by K COSSACK

2. rugby isnt fun here so we ditched it

Well, Euros, Asians, and Canucks find rugby fun. While Americans may not find it fun, I don't think the change of location in itself would make a sport more or less fun.

Originally Posted by K COSSACK

3. we're the land of the free, home of the brave

Even if that was as true as you think, this is certainly not the place to debate that. Start a new thread, if you will

Originally Posted by K COSSACK

4. u have my sympathies

I'm not sure what for.

**ShadesPanther** · 09-09-2007, 20:52

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

Well, Euros, Asians, and Canucks find rugby fun. While Americans may not find it fun, I don't think the change of location in itself would make a sport more or less fun.

You left out the Australasians, Argentina and South Africa.

But Rugby is far more global than American Football.

**Boyar Son** · 09-09-2007, 23:46

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

I couldn't argue with that if I wanted to.

Well, Euros, Asians, and Canucks find rugby fun. While Americans may not find it fun, I don't think the change of location in itself would make a sport more or less fun.

Even if that was as true as you think, this is certainly not the place to debate that. Start a new thread, if you will

I'm not sure what for.

Nevermind guys

**Geoffrey S** · 09-09-2007, 11:44

Why do people compare two sports which are fundamentally different and entertaining in different ways? It's a disservice to either sport, lumping them together because both feature big blokes passing a ball around and falling over. There's more to both than that.