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    Default Re: Microsoft Attacks its Biggest Enemy: Windows XP

    What next, a 'ditch Vista: get Vista SP1' campaign?!?!
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    While I like Vista, XP is still better, and it will remain like that.

    But still, M$, come onn...
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    Considering companies pay the same yearly fee for whatever OS of MS they run... this report and the way it is handled doesn't make sense on several levels... the hardware requirements being the obvious lie... I wonder if anyone in MS had shown that this consultancy is obviously making up alot of its outcomes...
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    While I agree with you that some or all of the information is probably wrong, I think companies advertising their new products in a way that makes their older stuff look worse is not that new.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    While I agree with you that some or all of the information is probably wrong, I think companies advertising their new products in a way that makes their older stuff look worse is not that new.
    Deja vu - pretty much everything being said about Vista today was also being said about XP when it was released. e.g. "bloated", "resource hog" etc. It turned out that with all the cartoonish themes disabled, animated effects and 50% of the unnecessary, mostly networking related, services (that are mainly only of use to corporate users) disabled, XP was basically only a "Win2K update".

    Back then XP was heavily criticised with many PC users "sticking with 2K/98SE". Now we find that "its most stable product in years... ...(you know, the Windows OS that actually has hardware/peripheral support, a lot of software written for it, needs a lighter hardware platform, etc.)". So after 2 service packs and a few years, XP went from insecure "bloatware" to "stable" and needing a "lighter platform".

    I actually remember the same being said about Win98 and Win2k by users upgrading from Win95 and WinNT. In fact the system requirements for M$ OS have shown a fairly steep upward curve over the years, so this scenario is really nothing new.

    Win95
    Processor: 386DX or higher processor (486 recommended)
    RAM: 4MB
    Hard Drive Space: 50-55 MB
    VGA or higher resolution (256-color SVGA recommended)

    WinNT
    Processor: 486 25MHz or faster
    RAM:12MB
    Hard Drive Space: 124MB
    Video: VGA (Video Graphics Array)

    Win98
    Processor 486DX 66MHz or faster
    RAM: 16M
    Hard Drive Space: 140 MB - 255 MB
    VGA or higher resolution (16-bit or 24-bit color SVGA recommended).

    Win2K
    Processor: Pentium-compatible 133MHz
    RAM: 64MB
    Hard Drive Space: 2GB hard disk with a minimum of 650 MB of free space. (Additional free hard disk space is required if you are installing over a network.)

    WinXP
    Processor: Intel Pentium/Celeron family or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family 233MHz or faster
    RAM: 128MB
    Hard Drive Space: 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space

    Vista
    Processor: 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
    RAM: 512 MB of system memory
    Hard Drive Space: 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
    Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor


    Personally I won't bother with Vista, not because I hate M$ or prefer Linux, but mainly because I don't see it as having anything to offer me. I expect that is the main reason why sales have slumped. It has taken all these years for people to adjust to XP. What initially a shaky product that had it's fair share of bad press, has eventually matured enough, and is now seen as the old reliable by many.
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    Default Re: Microsoft Attacks its Biggest Enemy: Windows XP

    Quote Originally Posted by Caravel
    Deja vu - pretty much everything being said about Vista today was also being said about XP when it was released. e.g. "bloated", "resource hog" etc.
    I did not have that experience. I was using Win2K at the time, and I asked my early-adopter friends what they thought of XP. Their reviews were universally positive. Even my favorite techno-curmudgeon, a real grumpy old geek, gave it a thumbs-up. Win2K with way better driver support was the general consensus.

    So from my perspective, equating the releases rings false.

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    That's so funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    I did not have that experience. I was using Win2K at the time, and I asked my early-adopter friends what they thought of XP. Their reviews were universally positive. Even my favorite techno-curmudgeon, a real grumpy old geek, gave it a thumbs-up. Win2K with way better driver support was the general consensus.

    So from my perspective, equating the releases rings false.
    From your perspective that may be the case. Though from the perspective of many others it was clearly not so. Pre SP1 XP was bug ridden and full of holes, it took SP2 to really sort things out. Win2K and Win98 users were not happy to see XP hogging the CPU with it's fancy effects, themes service and other added bloat.
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