General Discussion

**Tsar** · 10-14-2007, 18:21

phoenix[illusion] you should update team member list. Remove nonactive and add new

**Digenis** · 10-16-2007, 16:30

Hi all members of Tsardom!
I d like to make some comments on this mod-if they r welcomed its ok :)

There are some parameters that make me quiet pessimistic about it..although it looks like a brilliant idea.

First-The name.

I dont think it represents the whole game..since among the nations of the game there r only 2 tsardoms!-I was always skipping the mod cause i thought it was about Russian post 13th cent tsardoms!

2nd - The starting date.

I think 1345 is too late for Balcans.
Remember-1360 Turks pass in...1389 Kossovo Battle...and then semi-dead balcanic states struggling for survival till 1453-1480.
That makes some 40 years of balance...and 100 years of life for the mod.

It would be much more interesting if it started in 1204,or 1260(Constantinople recaptured by Byzantines)
More Powerful Latins,Strong Bulgarians,Serbs emerging (since 1200 growing stronger) and so on.

This would make it more interesting both for West Europeans and Greeks/Turks.
Now it looks like a Serb-focused mod only.

**matko** · 10-16-2007, 17:02

Originally Posted by Digenis

Hi all members of Tsardom!
I d like to make some comments on this mod-if they r welcomed its ok :)

There are some parameters that make me quiet pessimistic about it..although it looks like a brilliant idea.

First-The name.

I dont think it represents the whole game..since among the nations of the game there r only 2 tsardoms!-I was always skipping the mod cause i thought it was about Russian post 13th cent tsardoms!

2nd - The starting date.

I think 1345 is too late for Balcans.
Remember-1360 Turks pass in...1389 Kossovo Battle...and then semi-dead balcanic states struggling for survival till 1453-1480.
That makes some 40 years of balance...and 100 years of life for the mod.

It would be much more interesting if it started in 1204,or 1260(Constantinople recaptured by Byzantines)
More Powerful Latins,Strong Bulgarians,Serbs emerging (since 1200 growing stronger) and so on.

This would make it more interesting both for West Europeans and Greeks/Turks.
Now it looks like a Serb-focused mod only.

why 1345 ?
now goal of this mod is to represent late era. every time when i play campaign i become bored or finish game or political situation is totally changed (Milan conquers France, Byzantines destroys Turks or something like that) before i reach high era. so i lost interest in playing any more.

why "Tsardom" ?
because goal is to make empire and become Tsar - emperor. now it wouldn't be totally original to call mod a Empire: TW. Right ?
The old Byzantine empire is collapsing and looking for a successor.

the goal of this mod :
conquer Constantinople, and conquer Balkans, defeat the Ottoman invasion (well not if you are playing the Ottomans). you see this mod is a lot about the Ottoman invasion and wars caused by it. Defeating the Ottomans will really be a chalenge.

"Serbian mod"
Well I'm a co-leader and I'm from Croatia. so your conclusion is not correct.
And all playable factions (8 of them) will get equal treatment.
Playable factions: Bosnia, Bulgaria, Byzantine empire, Hungary, Serbia, Venice, Wallachia, Hospitallers. In later stages of the mod there will even more playable factions.

Too short?
not. one year = 4 turns

**Digenis** · 10-16-2007, 17:17

Are there any screenshots done till now?
Faction previous?
Faction list?

I would insist in starting date...at least 1280/1300 when Ottomans appear,but its your choice after all.

**matko** · 10-16-2007, 17:39

preview will be (very) soon.
and i forget to say that Ottomans will be playable too.

we are fans of more detailed approach, not generalizations. so we are for shorter period that will enable us more details.