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    Tovenaar Senior Member The Wizard's Avatar
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    I'd say the language you speak is more important than the ancestors you have in determining what nation you're a part of.
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    I speak english, does that mean im from England?

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    "Nation" is a damn complicated and troublesome concept anyway. Especially after some bright mind thought up the idea of nationalism a century or two back, which like most "isms" has been nothing but trouble.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Isn't nation a people who feel that they are the same? While a state, which is to my knowledge often confused with a nation is a political ententity. For example, the Kurds are a nation, but there is no Kurdish state. While a national-state is a state based on the idea that every nation should have their own state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K COSSACK
    I speak english, does that mean im from England?
    You certainly have a bigger connection to that country than a person who was raised speaking Dutch. Besides that, American Standard is different from the English dialect(s)... So, while you do make a point (it's more complicated than just language), language certainly is one of the most important elements pertaining to ethnic, cultural and national identity.
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    Uh... I speak English too. They kinda teach it in school here.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    As your mother tongue?

    But true, let me illustrate his point to show the other side of the coin: I'm bilingual myself, and I speak the American Standard dialect of English besides Dutch. So what does that make me? Dutch or American? I've never lived in America, but I think in English... et cetera.
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    Langue maternelle is obviously another thing, but you might perhaps want to define it as such then. I mean, I can three languages well enough that I can think in them without translation, and only one is my mother tongue...
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    And it only gets harder when you were raised with two languages. Which illustrates how language isn't the only thing that determines your (national/ethnic/cultural) identity.
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