Map

[phoenix[illusion]]

This mod is historical,and we use historical maps. we have one, but if you have more historical maps, post them here!

[Milos98]

I would suggest cutting map on right side (volga)...

[matko]

maybe sap should go to the Samsoun on the Black Sea. we dont need anythiung eastern of that. but we will see.

[Milos98]

You will need a lot of good mappers to make this map, it is surely the hardest part of making a mod. You should start searching, for mappers... coders are easier to find.

[phoenix[illusion]]

[phoenix[illusion]]

Tsar Dushan's State

[Tsar]

One from me:

[matko]

map on the first post is too big. this is better - this is how our map will look like (probably)

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[King Orko]

I think that only the eastern part of Wallachia should be Wallachia belongings as in reality

[Ave_Serbia]

[phoenix[illusion]]

What do you say for map lie this?

[Ave_Serbia]

All the informations about the Serbian state and it's borders in the midle ages can be found on this adress....


http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Историј...ку

[Milos98]

Regardez; I think this one is better (we can add venice).

[Ave_Serbia]

Regardez; I think this one is better (we can add venice).

Don't you think that it's a little too big ?

[matko]

good but- a part of hungary is missing- and it would be good to have a bit more asia minor

[King Orko]

From which year is the map?

[Ave_Serbia]

From which year is the map?

1265.

[King Orko]

1265.

then it is not good for the game.

[Sarmatian]

good but- a part of hungary is missing- and it would be good to have a bit more asia minor

That's goind to be a problem. If we expand the map to the north and east we are going to end up with a large chunk of the map in the northeast that is unusable.

Maybe it is not such a bad thing to cut of a part of hungary and asia minor since ottomans and hungary are in great position because they're on the edges of the map. Both of them can expand without worrying for their "exposed rear". This could be a nice way of limiting their power, since we can assume that income and manpower form those parts go to defending their northern (Hungary) and eastern (Ottomans) border...

[King Orko]

please reply this or I think you are dead and only ghosts are answering me:
Wallachia in that time didn't hold Severin(or lesser Wallachia) back than.

[matko]

please reply this or I think you are dead and only ghosts are answering me:
Wallachia in that time didn't hold Severin(or lesser Wallachia) back than.

ok. we heard you the first time.we just dont have any historically correct maps.
we will have to draw one. you could help with this.

[King Orko]

ok. we heard you the first time.we just dont have any historically correct maps.
we will have to draw one. you could help with this.

OK
sure

[Tsar]

In this 2 maps we can see which kingdoms survive Ottomans , so we can include 2nd muslim faction
Eurpe 1300

Europe 1400

[King Orko]

In this 2 maps we can see which kingdoms survive Ottomans , so we can include 2nd muslim faction
Eurpe 1300

Europe 1400

Reading in a few historical sources and looking over some maps, I found out that Euratlas' historical maps are not really reliable.

[Ave_Serbia]

Balkan 1355 godina





Balkan 1560 godina

[Tsar]

See Europe in 1360 AD. Duchies, kingdoms, and principalities are indicated on the map.

Central Europe (1378 AD)
View the Luxemburg dominions, Hapsburg dominions, Wittelsbach, ecclesiastical estates, and more within Central Europe in 1378.

Source: Sheperd, William R. Historical Atlas. New York: Henry Holt and Company, 1911. 77.

[Tsar]

Can we use this map for provinces?



These cities can be added to the map:

Konya- Sultan Mehmed was managing this city when he was a prince(Şehzade).

Adrianople(Edirne)

Prusa(Bursa)

Nicomedia(Izmit)

[IrishArmenian]

I'm not too keen on the inclusion of Kilikia as a part of the map. Too east, it ruins the feel of the mod. What the hell are we (Armenians) doing in Slavic politics in this timeframe? We weren't of any relevance until the 19th century, really.

[Ave_Serbia]

Can we use this map for provinces?

Душане,свака част за мапу!!!. (in egnlish: Dusan,grat map )

[Kavhan Isbul]

That is a very nice map, but may I propose a few changes?
Instead of Moesia Inferior, can we just call it Dobrudja?
Instead of the Balkan Mountains, I suggest having a Vidin province, and the rest of the Balkans can be added to Turnovo.
Nicopolis is OK and perhaps deserves to be included, but I strobgly believe we need a Sofia province - the strategic importance of the city, in the middle of the peninsula, where many roads intersect, nesseciates it. The Ottomans almost imemdiately went for it, in order to separate the Serbs and the Bulgarians, and their plan worked.
These are all the changes I would do, but with or without them, this is a really nice map, great job!