Two Huge Eleuthori Navy Pops Up Out of Nowhere

[Intranetusa]

I usually have 4-5 fleets composed of 2-3 covered libreme fleet/Triemes patrolling the Mediterranean to eliminate pirates. On 217 BCE, for some reason, 2 huge pirate Eleuthori fleets pop out of nowhere. (they all have 2 chevrons for some reason)

I thought only the north had huge pirate fleets cuz the south usually has AI factions clearing out the rebels? And this is actually one of the largest fleets I've ever seen...

weird, here's the pic:


First fleet:


Second fleet:


btw, the pirate units are stacked with more than 20 units per fleet...scrolling down
I found a couple more 84 & 26 ships.

[Roman_Man#3]

well, in fact, they only have 20. If you count all the ships there in those pics, you see 18 per fleet.

Those are two massive fleets!!

[Intranetusa]

well, in fact, they only have 20. If you count all the ships there in those pics, you see 18 per fleet.

Those are two massive fleets!!

ah, I see...must've miscounted cuz I thought each row contained 10. Yeh, so there are 20 units of veteran pirate ships per fleet... :(

The main suprise is that they poped out of nowhere...my fleets had been killing pirates for decades and hadn't encountered a pirate fleet for many years now...

[Dan_Grr]

Eleutheroi land stacks spawn throghout the game, why shouldn't naval stacks do the same?

[Intranetusa]

Eleutheroi land stacks spawn throghout the game, why shouldn't naval stacks do the same?

because Eleutheroi spawns a few units at a time...not spawn 2 gigantic veteran fleets in a single turn. I've been clearing out small pirate fleets around the region, so this is probably not several pirate fleets merging into one unit.

[Roy1991]

Eleutheroi land stacks spawn throghout the game, why shouldn't naval stacks do the same?

Because it's a lot easier to defeat a full stack army than a full stack navy.
You need a navy a lot bigger than the pirate navy to defeat it (because of the pirate's experience & command stars).
Just think of the enormous costs to create & maintain such a navy.
And don't forget the messed-up auto-resolve...

[Tuuvi]

there is a file where you can change the spawn rate of pirates and rebels, but I can't remember which one it is.

Edit: did a search and I found out which one it is.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenith Darksea
Right, I've managed it, and it's not hard to do actually. Go into descr_rebel_factions in the Data file, scroll down until you find Rebel Faction: Bandits, and you'll see there's a line that reads something like 'frequency' or 'chance of appearing' or something like that. It's currently set to 15 (I'm sure it was 20 in the original RTW though...). Basically, the higher the value, the lower the chances of bandits appearing. I halved the chances by increasing the value to 30. Ramp it up to 100 though and you'll practically never see them again.

[Intranetusa]

I have no problem with the pirate spawn rate...I was just suprised because this spawn was so sudden & there were so many..so I wondered if there was a glitch or something... :D

[Dan_Grr]

If you're playing with the "civilized" factions (greeks for eg) you don't need more ships. You just need 2 or 3 of your own regular ships to destroy several boats. I usually win these fleets with 3 ships of my own. I can't do the same with Lusotanna, as they have shitty boats.

[JeffBag]

They might have come from the North Sea; usually the pirates there start bunching up as they keep spawning with nobody up there to kill them off.

[Brightblade]

f34r Admiral Buggerrandimnozzzz and Admiral Panda the Great, rawr!11!!

[Sir-S-Of-TURBO]

Am I the only one seeing the obvious that admiral Panda ( ) warped in from another dimension in order to restore the persian empire, but dominated by asian critters?

I THOUGHT YOU PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT HISTORY!

[LennStar]

They might have come from the North Sea; usually the pirates there start bunching up as they keep spawning with nobody up there to kill them off.

Thats very likely. I had 4 or 5 big fleets (more than 10 ships, 2 nearly full) one day coming down the west side of spain one after the other and several smaller fleets beyond them. Around 100 pirate ships in 2-turn distance.
They killed my huge-army-with-general that was on a 2-ship fleet in the first attack.

[Intranetusa]

Admiral Giant Panda for the win!!! :D


I mustered 7-8 of my best warships (covered liberemes, triemes, each with 2-3 silver chevrons) and attacked & defeated the pirate fleet, taking heavy losses...

I'll post the resulting pics asap. :)

[LordCurlyton]

This is when Quinquiremes and Poiliremes rock. You only need 2 or so and you will beat the full stack pirate navies.

[skuzzy]

Unfortunately this doesn't help Casse flotillas :(

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Panda is a celtic name.

[edyzmedieval]

Panda is a celtic name.

Seconded. Plus, it's a cute name. Why shouldn't you feel happy for having such a fuzzy admiral? BTW, do not fight pandas or the Getai will get you!

[Intranetusa]

Seconded. Plus, it's a cute name. Why shouldn't you feel happy for having such a fuzzy admiral? BTW, do not fight pandas or the Getai will get you!

the giant panda is a half ton killing machine that can easily bite off the head of a Gastarne in a split second.

[Spoofa]

Panda's are FAT and LAZY.

which is why they are on the endangered species list.

[LordCurlyton]

So I guess us Americans are next?

[Fondor_Yards]

No because we have food EVERYWHERE. Silly panadas only eat like 1 type of bamboo that's hard to find, but we have a Burger King or something every 3 three, so we will be fine.

[Narhon]

So I guess us Americans are next?

I resemble that remark

[edyzmedieval]

the giant panda is a half ton killing machine that can easily bite off the head of a Gastarne in a split second.

So? They're still warm, cuddly and fuzzy.

[Sygrod]

Meandering back to the topic.....

I have observed the following:
1. Pirate fleets usually spawn 2 ships. One 84 man monster and one 26. Sometimes there are more 26ers but it is usually a manageable enemy to encounter.
2. When left alone, pirate fleets that come into contact with each other tend to merge. Hence large monster fleets.

You have two choices. You can duck from harbour to harbour or you build up a strong enough force to kick their butt. I've done the latter. My ships are now sporting gold chevrons from all the fighting with pirate fleets, so that when I finally have to face Romans or Ptolies, I have the upper hand.

/Sygrod

[Kralizec]

Panda's are FAT and LAZY.

which is why they are on the endangered species list.

I dunno why this is so funny, but it is

[Tellos Athenaios]

Meandering back to the topic.....

You have two choices. You can duck from harbour to harbour or you build up a strong enough force to kick their butt. I've done the latter. My ships are now sporting gold chevrons from all the fighting with pirate fleets, so that when I finally have to face Romans or Ptolies, I have the upper hand.

/Sygrod

Yeah did about the same thing when I played as AS. Boy, those pirates must have feared my silver chevroned Huge Poliremes and their 3 stars after just 3 battles general with his fleet of experienced trieres and pentekonterai...

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Please look where this navy is situated:



Looks like a really safe place for a navy.

[pezhetairoi]

Goodness, that's a really snugly divided continental Europe you have in your campaign. And it's a really neat combination of colours too, soothing on the eye, it is.

[Intranetusa]

Results: :D










"Goodness, that's a really snugly divided continental Europe you have in your campaign. And it's a really neat combination of colours too, soothing on the eye, it is."


You talking about my pic or Centurio Nixalsverdrus's pic? lol