Re: Hadramaut and Ubar
Yes....I heard he pulled aspects from all kinds of different mythologies, including Greek and Roman, Scandinavian, and even far eastern.
One of the craziest things is that "tolkienists" or whatever sit there and debate and debate small things about a world which existed entirely in some dude's head.
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Re: Hadramaut and Ubar
Tolkien was a linguist by day job IIRC, and given the amount of influence Danish and Norse have had on English it's hardly surprising he had an interest in the Scandinavian languages.
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Thanks guys....
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Re: Hadramaut and Ubar
uhh, he TAUGHT Old English, so yeah I think he was a little bit into Germanic
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Re: Hadramaut and Ubar
Has anyone read the new Children Of Hurin? I'm in the middle of it now and its a great story so far...
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Re: Hadramaut and Ubar
Aren't the Elves in Tolkien based somewhat on Kalevala or is it some of their mythology?
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Re: Hadramaut and Ubar
Heck no. Our folklore elves are more akin to hearth, river and forest spirits and the like (think animistic). Off the top of my head I'd guess he based his Elves off some of the more fey inhabitants of British mythology, say those Tuatha DeSomething guys and a more sociable version of the Fair Folk proper.
The Dwarves seem to have been ripped off Scandinavian and Germanic myth.
There's a story not unlike the Turin Turambar one in the Kalevala, but as both also rather resemble the tale of Oedipus in general tone and content odds are that's one of those pan-Eurasian all-stars favourite themes. There's been those bouncing around for several millenia after all.
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