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    Default Guard Mode

    When using classical hoplites, its more effective to use guard mode.

    Which other units are more effective in guard mode?

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    Default Re: Guard Mode

    All phalanx-capable units. Use guard mode for fodder too - the melee penalty guard mode delivers won't matter because they're only fodder.

    I'd have to disagree on the hoplites though. In guard mode, they hardly kill any of their opponents, face in odd directions (often not head on), and get pushed easier.

    That's why I did this:
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    Default Re: Guard Mode

    i agree with TWC the hoplites SHOULD be better in hold position as the hoplite formations normally protected each other similar to the phalanx, but in game this is hard to translate so the hoplites are definitely not as good with hold position(ive lost a few battles online because of this misconception)

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    Default Re: Guard Mode

    With Hoplites the best bet is to put them in formation with a narrow front, then choss the enemy unit you won't to put a hole in, and charge them.
    Using Roman troops to back them up it is very effective.

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    Default Re: Guard Mode

    Roman soldiers are WAAYY better in guard mode, and thats how they fought historically too.

    large shield with stabbing sword were all part of the Romans style of fighting defensivly, and it worked too, in game and real life.

    later, when the enemy is tired, turn off guard mode and the troops will finish it from there.

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    Default Re: Guard Mode

    With the exception of a unit in phalanx formation, all units fight worse in guard mode. I've tested this many times with several different people in vanilla RTW and EB. The fact is that units fight better without guard mode.
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