The proper way to get tazed...

[Devastatin Dave]

LOL!!!
This is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Here's a move-on, Daily Kos type kooks at a John Kerry "open forum" when he takes over a mic and won't shutup.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4...elated&search=
Here is he is somewhat afterwards...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717&p=1
I'll give Kommie Kerry credit herre, he said that he was going to ask his lib nut buddy's question or multitude of nutty questions. I've noticed a bit of a trend where these left to center youngsters tend to not know proper questions and behaviour in these situations. Is this normal?

Man, what a whiney little . "The government's going to kill me!!!" This guy is better than the Britney Spears alternate lifestyle dude... LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!

Now to the discussion. There is so much to discuss and I can't wait to hear your opinions.

[CrossLOPER]

Yeah, he acted like a alright.

[Crazed Rabbit]

The police were to quick with physical restraint, and like just about all police, to quick with the tazer.

Asking stupid questions shouldn't get you tasered.

Crazed Rabbit

[Ice]

The police were to quick with physical restraint, and like just about all police, to quick with the tazer.

Asking stupid questions shouldn't get you tasered.

Crazed Rabbit

No, but acting like a and not listening to the campus security when they tell you to will get you tazered. They even told him to lay on his back or they were going to tazar him.

This kid is just an attention .

[Goofball]

I'm with you on this one CR.

The taser was completely unnecessary.

All this kid did was ask some questions at an open political forum. Questions that Kerry even was willing to answer (he was heard saying something to the effect of "No, it's okay, I'll answer his question").

And for that he was held down by six police officers and tortured.

[RoadKill]

Exactly, the kid wanted his question answered. Then he should have well damn answered it. I don't know if I'm just in a bad mood, but the tazing a kid part was just totally unecessary. The police was treating that citizen as if he was a criminal, like seriously tazing a freak'n kid because he wouldn't get off the stage? Like come on.

[Ice]

And for that he was held down by six police officers and tortured.

Oh, this gets a big

Tortured? The only reason that happened was because the kid was acting like a moron and screaming while resisting arrest (I don't even think they were arresting him) to get attention.

I hardly consider a tazer torture.

[Boyar Son]

hm, after thinking about it,

this guy asked questions, not scream out "liar" like other fools do. I agree that the police shouldnt have arrested him, for asking his questions.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm with you on this one CR.

The taser was completely unnecessary.

All this kid did was ask some questions at an open political forum. Questions that Kerry even was willing to answer (he was heard saying something to the effect of "No, it's okay, I'll answer his question").

No he wasn't. He was ranting and disturbing the meeting. Town hall meetings are useless if you allow anyone to stand up and going on long tirades.

And for that he was held down by six police officers and tortured.

The held him down for about a minute before tazing him and warned him that they were going to taze him if he didn't leave the building. Getting tazered was entirely his own choice. He refused to leave before hand.

I can't believe people are taking his side on this one...lots of colleges have crazy political groups that will try and disturb meetings...he probably planned on being thrown out and making a scene.

edit: watched the video with the full speech of his: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TIYTJ75U...elated&search=

[RoadKill]

I thought the US were democratic? And they dont even allow free speech?
Is it just me or am I just disgusted about this.

[Boyar Son]

Well sometimes protesters like these gets boring.

I doubt anybody actualy will remember what this moron said.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

That's pretty funny.

The security guards need to be able to escort someone who is acting disorderly out of the building. Tazers are entirely acceptable at the point they were used.

[Ice]

I thought the US were democratic? And they dont even allow free speech?
Is it just me or am I just disgusted about this.

What do you mean?

The guy was allowed to talk (which isn't shown in the YouTube clip), but he wouldn't step down when his time expired and he was asked nicely.

[Lemur]

And they dont even allow free speech?

You're allowed plenty of free speech in the U.S.A. But when a police officer asks you to put your hands behind your back, you put your hands behind your back. Complying with the lawful demands of a policeman is expected.

That said, they played right into this little strumpet's hands when they tazered him. " 'Elp, 'elp, I'm being repressed! Now we see the violence inherent in the system!"

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I thought the US were democratic? And they dont even allow free speech?
Is it just me or am I just disgusted about this.

Everybody has a right to speak at the meetings...that's the point, this guy kept yelling and asking questions, he was preventing other people from speaking. He's the least democratic person there.

He didn't even want to let Kerry answer his questions.

Surely if all he's done is ask questions beyond his time limit that is not a reason to arrest someone.

He wasn't arrested for that. The grabbed his arms to pull him out and he started yelling about being arrested. He was arrested for the giant scene he created afterwards.

[Boyar Son]

I dont think he interupted. Did he?

[Papewaio]

He wasn't arrested for that. The grabbed his arms to pull him out and he started yelling about being arrested. He was arrested for the giant scene he created afterwards.

Isn't touching someone without their consent assault?

Surely assault is a bit harsh for someone asking questions?

Surely free speech should be protected?

If they guy had physically stopped another person from using the mike, pushed them away or made threats then I can see cops stepping in.

I think it is overzealous if the guy is asking more questions (be they conspiracy theory or legit).

[HoreTore]

[QUOTE=Sasaki Kojiro]this guy kept yelling and asking questions, he was preventing other people from speaking./QUOTE]

And for THAT, you justify violence?

IMO, violence should only ever be used when the police feel threatened. it should never be used "just because he wouldn't listen".

A horrible abuse of power.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Asking stupid questions shouldn't get you tasered.

You've obviously never taught courses.

[Papewaio]

He'll be here all week folks.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The moment those police prevented the young man from hogging the mike, they were in for a brutality charge.

There are some who would consider anything aside from shutting off the mike to be uneccessary. There are probably some who would view that as an undue curtailment of his free speech.


I have mixed feelings about this. Tazering seems a little harsh, yet it was obviously a better choice then using their wands on the fellow. Was he likely to have suffered more harm from being picked up bodily by 4 or 5 officers and hauled out of the venue? I do not know.


Ultimately, creating a scene was likely to have been his real goal. If so, he was the only one to completely achieve his objective out of the whole group.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

The police were to quick with physical restraint, and like just about all police, to quick with the tazer.

Asking stupid questions shouldn't get you tasered.

Crazed Rabbit

no,when you act like a stupid idoit, a baby who wants people to notice him, you get tazed. What is the ploblem. but no sense of me aruging this point with anyone since we have some "oh, that's wasn't right" people here.

[Ser Clegane]

but no sense of me aruging this point with anyone since we have some "oh, that's wasn't right" people here.

I think you misunderstand the very concept of debate and discussion. Actually there would be no real sense in argueing a point if everybody would already agree with you.

[Devastatin Dave]

I think you misunderstand the very concept of debate and discussion. Actually there would be no real sense in argueing a point if everybody would already agree with you.

**tazes Ser**