several questions I've had for eons...

[KuriousJorj]

Actually, another question:

Roman rebellion...?

I'm replaying as Julii, and thought there was supposed to be a rebellion; my popularity with the masses is all the way up... With the Senate, around a "7" (1 higher than Brutii)

The year is 190. Aren't they supposed to rebel or something?

The only time I've played as Rome (Julli then also), was on easy a long time ago, and I ended up just attacking the other factions, and winning all on that last turn(s) (which BTW kept causing the game to crash before the end victory video, but that's another story).

Anyhow, the 'search' function and guides didn't quite seem to answer my questions.

How do I get them to rebel, or call me an outlaw, or whatever, so I can be "justified" in wiping them out?

thanks

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Hi KuriousJorj,
There are two ways of declaring the civil war. You can either reach a low senate popularity rating, or you can declare the war yourself when the people consider you worthy.

For the former to work, you typically need either two or fewer senate popularity shields.

When the senate decide they hate you enough, they will first start making missions which come tied in with penalties. These penalties include investigations, which usually come along with large fines, and exposure of secrets, basically a nasty trait for your faction leader.

If your senate popularity drops any further, then the senate will demand that your faction leader commits suicide. Refusal will result in you becoming classed as a outlaw (the senate and the other Roman factions declare war upon you), while acceptance provides you a few more turns to up your rating before they ask you again.

Bear in mind that this can occur to the AI, and, if it does, you have a choice over who to support. You, and the other Roman factions, can also, if this does happen, declare war upon any other Roman faction personally thereafter.

For the latter to occur, you usually require eight or more people popularity points.

When the people consider you highly enough, you will receive a message, informing you of a chance to take power. This should allow you to declare war upon any other Roman faction by attacking one of their cities or armies. By doing this, the senate will outlaw you, and the other Roman factions typically declare war against you (although sometimes the AI does choose to side with your faction).

Bear in mind that this can also occur to the AI. If it does, you will asked who you wish to support. You, and the other Roman factions, will also gain the opportunity to attack any other Roman faction if you so wish.

Hope this helps, good luck, cheers!

[KuriousJorj]

Hi KuriousJorj,
There are two ways of declaring the civil war. You can either reach a low senate popularity rating, or you can declare the war yourself when the people consider you worthy.


For the latter to occur, you usually require eight or more people popularity points.

When the people consider you highly enough, you will receive a message, informing you of a chance to take power. This should allow you to declare war upon any other Roman faction by attacking one of their cities or armies. By doing this, the senate will outlaw you, and the other Roman factions typically declare war against you (although sometimes the AI does choose to side with your faction).

Bear in mind that this can also occur to the AI. If it does, you will asked who you wish to support. You, and the other Roman factions, will also gain the opportunity to attack any other Roman faction if you so wish.

Hope this helps, good luck, cheers!

Cool, thanks.

This is apparently what I did the first time I played, as I remember then (and it's already happened in this game) where I got the message about taking power, or something. So basically, I just attack another Roman faction just like I would any other faction. I assume this also applies to Rome, as well? (the main reason I'm wanting to do this is to build 1st Cohorts, which I've never done).

So just attack the city of Rome (or Brutii and/or Scipii cities or armies) as I would any other faction? What about the "popularity of the people"? How does that even enter in? Ie, why couldn't I just attack the other Roman factions at any point in the game? Don't really see why I even need to build up popularity of the people...?

thanks again

BJ

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

This is apparently what I did the first time I played, as I remember then (and it's already happened in this game) where I got the message about taking power, or something. So basically, I just attack another Roman faction just like I would any other faction. I assume this also applies to Rome, as well? (the main reason I'm wanting to do this is to build 1st Cohorts, which I've never done).

Yep - it also applies to Rome, and any other SPQR cities should they have expanded a little.

[KuriousJorj]

So what about that "popularity with the people" thing...? What happens if one does attack another Roman faction w/o high popularity?

thanks

BJ

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

So what about that "popularity with the people" thing...? What happens if one does attack another Roman faction w/o high popularity?

As far as I remember, quite surprisingly, nothing actually happens other than a standard declaration of war. The popularity stats only effect when the civil war can be declared and change nothing else.

[ShaiHulud]

KuriousJorj-

I'm rather late in this thread so you might already have your answer to the uneven distribution when you place your legions.

The significant factor is how many troops are in each unit. Groups of units of the same type and number, I've found, will always be able to be set at the same depth. Once you add in a unit or two with a different troop total, the unit depths start getting erratic when you spread them as a group.