Quote Originally Posted by Decker
I think it's mars


On a serious note, I just got a girlfriend, for the first time ever, and I've kinda been letting her move us along,which seems to be at a slow pace which is perfect. She is basically all that I look for in a girl(not saying she's the one as it's HEEELLLA early in the relationship), but my advice from what I have seen, is that you should go for the personality first if she is attractive, to make sure that there is something worthwhile behind all of those good looks. O, and asking her to do things like putting your arm around her or holding her hand(or in my friend's case kissing her), is also a good idea, but not in a forceful way so that she doesn't feel under pressure and not being forced by you to do things that she doesn't want.

I really haven't read the whole thread just been kinda following it off and on as it's all over the place, so sorry if i repeat a few things.
Damn those martians! ;) lol

Seriously, congrats. :P Got a ways to go, but you learn somewhere. ;)
You are right to go for her personality; that is what really matters. Some times outward characteristics can be an indication of personality (a fat body, a grumpy face, etc), but not always. Want the best advice I think anyone could give you?
Be honest!
That really is a big one (and a hard one sometimes :P) If you are not a nascar racer, or sports champ, or a math wiz, that is alright. In any lasting relationship, she will find all that out anyway. It is better to be honest with her, and let her decide if she really likes you at the beginning, before parting gets hard. (which is not to say that you should only be honest at the beginning :P)
Another good effect of being honest is that it will likely make her feel more comfortable being honest with you.

One more piece of advice for anyone trying to have a serious relationship (and it is also pretty important): You have to remember that women have an image in their heads about men, that we are a bunch of perverts who only want to get them into bed. :P (While this IS true of some men, it certainly is not true of all)
To make it worse, as men we are naturally attracted to women and their figures, and they may take things such as a look or touch as an indication that you are "like all other men" and just want to see them naked. :P It is hard sometimes, but don't stare, and try to keep away from "guy and girl" subjects of conversation, as they will have the same effect. It is kinda awkward at first, but you do not want women to fit you into their pre-generalization of men.


Hope that helps and doesn't just make you role your eyes. :P

Vuk