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    I was (re)reading some of the threads that I'd contributed to and a thought struck me.

    Those on the right say, "If you don't agree with me you are a traitor/terrorist/sympathizer/liberal et al...I'm sure you get me drift.

    Then I looked at some posts from the 'left' as it were...

    If you don't agree with me you are a "fascist, racist, reactionary, bigot", et al.

    Who's right?
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    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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    Both of them.

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    EA.


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    Well, me of course.
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    Whichever side I'm on. Obviously.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Oh, and don't forget centrists: "I agree, but...", "Why can't we all get along?", "You're all such extremists!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by English assassin
    Both of them.

    I think none of them are.

    My thought is that politicians are cretins who, because of a deluded cretinous [read pyschotic] state believe, that the rest of us are morons.

    Maybe our resident philosophers can enlighten us?
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    Uh... if you don't mind me asking, since when were we talking about politicians ?
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
    Oh, and don't forget centrists: "I agree, but...", "Why can't we all get along?", "You're all such extremists!"
    And then there is the people like me who can and will argue for both sides of an argument. So I can insult the lefty commie scum, the bigoty racist righties, and The wussy indecisive centrists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    Uh... if you don't mind me asking, since when were we talking about politicians ?
    As we're talking politics, it seemed a bit apt.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    As a moderator... we are always accused of being biased in favour of the right by the left and the left by the right.

    So as long as we get complaints from all we know we are doing the right thing.
    Same school as thought as not being a racist because one hates everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    As we're talking politics, it seemed a bit apt.
    It seemed excessively pessimistic - and not a little over-simplifying and hence populistic - to me...

    But then again, we don't have a two-party system here.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

    -Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    If I'm not in on it, it's categorically wrong.
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    Well, obviously there are nutty people at both ends of the spectrum. Most people are really only a little to the left or right but very few people are truely in the centre, unless they hold no opinions.

    You'll find a lot of people have views from both "camps". For example, I believe in public healthcare and a strong military able to project power overseas.

    I think what often happens is that when people argue they become entrenched in their position and both parties move further and further from the middle ground. Human nature in any arguement.

    That's why you should try to get to know someone before you discuss the big three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldinger
    And then there is the people like me who can and will argue for both sides of an argument. So I can insult the lefty commie scum, the bigoty racist righties, and The wussy indecisive centrists.
    Bah. Contrarians. Bunch o' Socrates-wannabes the lot of them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    I think none of them are.

    My thought is that politicians are cretins who, because of a deluded cretinous [read pyschotic] state believe, that the rest of us are morons.

    Maybe our resident philosophers can enlighten us?
    I you mean it the way I think you do you're probably right. Politicians, to gain votes, almost all depend on labeling themselves, their policies and the opponents in a particular way (ie. liberal, libertarian, pro-life). What that ends up meaning is that said politicians often aren't busy actually doing something but busy working out exactly which label appeals to the most voters, or tweaking the definition of labels to better suit them. A lot of the time this is meaningless in content, but effective in manipulating the electorate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    As a moderator... we are always accused of being biased in favour of the right by the left and the left by the right.

    So as long as we get complaints from all we know we are doing the right thing.
    Same school as thought as not being a racist because one hates everyone.
    I'm not accusing you of being rightists... So it appears you're not doing things right after all!
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    I was (re)reading some of the threads that I'd contributed to and a thought struck me.

    Those on the right say, "If you don't agree with me you are a traitor/terrorist/sympathizer/liberal et al...I'm sure you get me drift.

    Then I looked at some posts from the 'left' as it were...

    If you don't agree with me you are a "fascist, racist, reactionary, bigot", et al.

    Who's right?
    Nut jobs like me, who due to extreme views that encompass both the far right and far left wind up in the middle.

    Hail the moderates !
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    I guess the discussion has expanded to include or center on the Political world. As to why such polarization happens here in the backroom: I think it's because we're gamers, who have a natural (?) tendancy to strive to solve puzzles/problems and WIN.
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    "Nerd Wars", you mean ?
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    "Nerd Wars", you mean ?
    I guess so, . Or maybe, more kindly: "strategists' contests".
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    Given that we'd be talking about, ah, armchair stretegists, I don't think there's a difference...
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    I was (re)reading some of the threads that I'd contributed to and a thought struck me.

    Those on the right say, "If you don't agree with me you are a traitor/terrorist/sympathizer/liberal et al...I'm sure you get me drift.

    Then I looked at some posts from the 'left' as it were...

    If you don't agree with me you are a "fascist, racist, reactionary, bigot", et al.

    Who's right?
    The fascists, of course

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    What did I do this time??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec
    The fascists, of course
    You offend Comrade Stalin's mustache.
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    Well somebody's got to be right. As an old cowhand told me once:

    Anyone who is straddlin' a fence is bound to get a sore crotch.

    Be courageous, take a stand for goodnes' sake!
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    American wisdoms are glorious.

    However, the only one who can be right is a man with a mustache like old Joe Stalin. Amaïh Plekszy-Gladz!
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    Now that I wasn't expecting.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

    -Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    Indeed.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
    Oh, and don't forget centrists: "I agree, but...", "Why can't we all get along?", "You're all such extremists!"
    That's me!
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