I know we've had plenty of threads on this already, but it's happened to me..AGAIN! on my second time as rome SA seems to have most of the east under its control, although i dont know for certain. the reason i think it IS in control is: diplomats have seen byzantium fall to the seleukids AND when we traded map information with the ptolomies it showed that memphis was under seleukid control! and to make my paranoia even worse the SA wont trade map information, so im at a loss to know EXACTLY what they control. putos