The factions with the best armies in EB

[carthage_supreme]

the best armies(units) i think are; karthadastim , romani , makedonia , sweboz and averni.

[Kampfkrebs]

Eleutheroi.

[CaesarAugustus]

What's so special about the Arverni compared to the Aedui?

[Respenus]

Romani FOREVER!

OK, I must admit that I haven't played other civilizations, but I do know that Cartage is very strong indeed.

[Bonny]

Karthadastim has a good variety of factional Elite Units and regional middle / Elite Units, but i must say that no faction can beat the Diadochi, especially the Arche Seleukia.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Exactly.

[abou]

Indeed. Bonny put it best.

[woad&fangs]

Epeiros, Hammer and Anvil tactics are so much more effective when you use elephant hammers.

[MiniMe]

Karthadastim has a good variety of factional Elite Units and regional middle / Elite Units, but i must say that no faction can beat the Diadochi, especially the Arche Seleukia.

Epeiros, Hammer and Anvil tactics are so much more effective when you use elephant hammers.

Seeing these posts together, I finally realised that Epeiros and Baktria were not real "Diadochoi" factions, though they were using Diadochoi military tactics. Stupidme =)

I say
1. Karthadastim has the best unit rooster in western hemisphere, since beside their own African and Iberian elites they can recruit celtic elites (Gaesatae and Neitos)
2. Baktria has the best unit rooster in eastern hemisphere, since they have their own armoured horse archers and Arche Seleukia has not.

Romani FOREVER!

Romaim DELEGO EST!!!
Carthage RULES!
They had temple prostitution and baby sacrifices therefore their culture was supreme to roman

[Bootsiuv]

I agree about Baktria's unit line-ups....it is killer. Qarthadastim is beaten out by the Romani in the western hemisphere IMO. Having played several Qarthadastim campaigns, they always give me a run for my money.

Qarthadastim getting bogged down in southern Italy is an excellent way to lose a campaign. It's doable, but don't expect it to be easy, and expect to take high losses.

However, playing as the Romani, Qarthadastim were push-overs really.

[Sarkiss]

Carthage RULES!
They had temple prostitution

they were not the only ones at this. the same was going on in Armenia, cult of Anahit.
i like Pontic roster the best and if not absence of pikes would probably name Hayasdan, very divers roster and those kataphracts are just awesome. but Pontus got almost all, just eles (which i dont favor though) HA and kats are missing.
Successors are splendid of course but miss that special something about them.

[Boyar Son]

Romani teh pwns.

I like to see phalanxes try and stop over 100 pilum at the same time....

[abou]

Okay, and I would like to see a legion stop a cataphract charge... oh wait, they didn't.

[Spoofa]

Oh I can show you a makedonian phalanx stopping 100 pilum....

[NeoSpartan]

hum... I see a lot of fluf talk, a lot of fluf talk, but notin' else.....

You wanna prove which army is the best?
I will tell you it doesn't really matter, it depends on the leader. The troops you select and how u use them in battle.

Come to MP and show me what u can do
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[Tellos Athenaios]

Romani teh pwns.

I like to see phalanxes try and stop over 100 pilum at the same time....

Easiest thing in the world for a phalanx. Just stand there and face the pilum; it's only a pilum you know.

[Spoofa]

Easiest thing in the world for a phalanx. Just stand there and face the pilum; it's only a pilum you know.

when the Pilum gets caught up in the forest of Sarissa's then it becomes near useless

[Tellos Athenaios]

hum... I see a lot of fluf talk, a lot of fluf talk, but notin' else.....

You wanna prove which army is the best?
I will tell you it doesn't really matter, it depends on the leader. The troops you select and how u use them in battle.

Come to MP and show me what u can do
X-fire: 1stneospartan
online: Almost any day 12:00am to 2:00am, sometimes 3:00am
MP connection: Hamachi only, my PC doesn't like GameSpy.

You are bored... I can read it between the lines...

[NeoSpartan]

You are bored... I can read it between the lines...

Sorta... I don't feel like staring/continuing a single player campain due to my last CTD.

So... for the past 3 weeks I have played MP exclusively with my man Madmatg, and Gauis. As a side effect our skills have increased

[Poulp']

The factions with the best armies in EB ?

well, against the AI, the faction you're playing is the best.
Actually, anything will do against the AI, even penguins, provided there's enough penguins, and a good cav charge to deal the death blow.
March of the penguins anyone ?

As for me, I prefer Carthage's armies the best; they just got so many aces in their sleeves.

Oh yeah, sacred prostitution is the icing on the cake ^^

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

I like to see phalanxes try and stop over 100 pilum at the same time....

Pezhetairoi walk through any barrage as if it was nothing...

Once I was besieged from Sarmatae. I defeated all their crappy infantry, and they had no chance anymore. How do you climb ladders with horses anyway? So they had like 450 HAs left, and a unit of Sphendonetai. So I sallied forth with my General and two units of Skythian Riders through the backdoor. Meanwhile I ordered my 150 Pezhetairoi out of the front gate. The HAs immidiately began their deadly barrage. My Pezhetairoi went into phalanx mode. It was an aweful sound, the never-stopping noise of the arrows and stones hitting my soldiers. I don't know how many arrows each horsearcher has, but they must have sent all their 9000 or what-not arrows at my poor 150 Phalangites. Half of them was dead afterwards, but it was enough. Because of their inferiorty in melee I could beat them back with my General and 200 Skythian Riders.

So, 100 arrows kill less than 1 Pezhetairos. And javelins are even more useless. Phalanx = invincible.

[antisocialmunky]

Slingers FTW.

*ahem!*

I like the Iberian faction(forgot how to spell it). They have lots of great units from the start of the game.

[Bootsiuv]

Phalanx = overpowered, if only by a small amount. Arrows should do more damage to phalanx troops IMO. While the forest of sarissas was effective, I don't think it would equate to 1-2 men falling in a 200 arrow barrage.

I'm fairly certain the missile protection for phalanxes is hardcoded, so there isn't much one can do. I may be wrong, though.

[Boyar Son]

mm hm I hope the phalanx can cope being attacked from the sides and rear, maybe if they were more flexible...ow wait....

[Megas Pyrrhos]

mm hm I hope the phalanx can cope being attacked from the sides and rear, maybe if they were more flexible...ow wait....

That's why a good general would have a combined-arms army, consisting of something more than just phalanx units, but flank guards as well.

Go Baktria!

[Bellum]

Romans have the best infantry, and probably some of the easiest to use effectively.

[Krusader]

Being the guy who has created the unit pages, I have to say Baktria followed by Arche Seleukeia, although worth mentioning Getai too.

Baktria can if they seize Gandhara and Paropamisadai have access to all units for any battlefield role of any quality, except elite pikemen. Which is actually pretty sick, considering they can field devastating armies for any task from only 5 provinces.
Elephants, skirmishers, archers, assault infantry, elite spearmen, heavy cavalry, super-heavy cavalry (Hetairoi Kataphraktoi, cavalry as armored as the Grivpanvar, hopefully you'll love 'em. We do ), Pezhetairoi, Thorakitai, horse archers, light cavalry etc.

And properly made up the Getai is also a faction who has access to many different troop types. They got nice shock infantry, line infantry, horse archers, archers, light and heavy cavalry etc.

[Lysander13]

Definately one of the Diadochi i would say, i'd go with the AS in particular. The army the "silver death" can potentially put in the field is just sick.

[Cheexsta]

I'll go against everyone and say Pahlava. Very little can beat a skilled opponent with a heap of horse archers. Except maybe a ring of 20 Pezhetairoi units...

[Bootsiuv]

HA heavy factions like Pahlava and Saka Rauka usually have suck infantry (barring the Saka's Hellenic Reforms, which don't even work right in the current version IIRC), so they aren't amongst the best overall.

HA armies can be devestating in the field, but trying to take cities like Seleukiea and Antioch with Nizag Gund isn't ideal. I suppose you can use Mercenaries to supplement the HA's, but that's not really the Pahlavan military, that's the Pahlavan military with non-Pahlavan troops.