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    Quote Originally Posted by Destroyer of Hope
    and the national guard to... which is the modern succesor

    On another note Horetore Why is knife armed criminals so much better then gun armed criminals dosn't that simply mean that the strongest instead of those with better aim will win more often? Wouldn't we rather have something that would at least give the physicaly disadvanted a better chance at defending themselves?
    Not necessarily how it works. Quickness plays an important part as well. Furthermore, a person with a knife can be disarmed close range. Good luck disarming some guy with a gun at 10 yards away. Furthermore, any martial arts training can help a person with self defense as well in close combat. Plus, a girl could always kick the guy in the nuts, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greaterkhaan
    Not necessarily how it works. Quickness plays an important part as well. Furthermore, a person with a knife can be disarmed close range. Good luck disarming some guy with a gun at 10 yards away. Furthermore, any martial arts training can help a person with self defense as well in close combat. Plus, a girl could always kick the guy in the nuts, too.

    A little, I would agree if it was a sword we were talking about but with a knife to get close enough you'd ussaly have to be within the guys reach, meaning that the average joe is going to get his stab blocked, doged or have himself punched away. Plus if you can disarm some guy with a knife you still have to face him with bare hands and he can always grab the knife again and your back to square one. This time you may not be so lucky. I guess the question is how much do you want to test faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greaterkhaan
    Not necessarily how it works. Quickness plays an important part as well. Furthermore, a person with a knife can be disarmed close range. Good luck disarming some guy with a gun at 10 yards away. Furthermore, any martial arts training can help a person with self defense as well in close combat.
    I think this is completely wrong. Knife disarming doesn't really work. When they teach it at martial arts dojos they are either teaching the students goofy stuff that the students think are cool to keep them paying, or are teaching knife dueling. Someone trying to kill you with a knife is going to rush you as fast as they can as stab you when their up close. You can't disarm that. And what if he has two knives? Or a knife and a hammer? He's going to stack the odds in his favor as much as he can.

    You have a much better chance with a gun fight. You know your house better than they do. You can hide somewhere in a cul de sac and shoot him as soon as he turns the corner. You'll hear him coming he won't know your their. Aiming isn't hard.

    I think your more likely to survive a gun shot than getting stabbed with a knife as well.

    Plus, a girl could always kick the guy in the nuts, too.
    And then he'll stab her and she'll die

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    I think this is completely wrong. Knife disarming doesn't really work. When they teach it at martial arts dojos they are either teaching the students goofy stuff that the students think are cool to keep them paying, or are teaching knife dueling. Someone trying to kill you with a knife is going to rush you as fast as they can as stab you when their up close. You can't disarm that. And what if he has two knives? Or a knife and a hammer? He's going to stack the odds in his favor as much as he can.

    You have a much better chance with a gun fight. You know your house better than they do. You can hide somewhere in a cul de sac and shoot him as soon as he turns the corner. You'll hear him coming he won't know your their. Aiming isn't hard.

    I think your more likely to survive a gun shot than getting stabbed with a knife as well.
    You make it seem as though the average attacker is going to put a giant sign in your yard with giant neon green letters saying "I'm going to attack you at 1:30 A.M". How are you going to plan this whole thing out if you've got some psychopath breaking into your house when you're asleep, giving you perhaps 30 seconds to actually have a chance to get out of the house, depending on layout. Some guy breaks into your house, you're going to have a much better chance against a guy with a knife than a gun. People might be surprised at the number of household implements that can actually make handy weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikhaan
    You make it seem as though the average attacker is going to put a giant sign in your yard with giant neon green letters saying "I'm going to attack you at 1:30 A.M". How are you going to plan this whole thing out if you've got some psychopath breaking into your house when you're asleep, giving you perhaps 30 seconds to actually have a chance to get out of the house, depending on layout. Some guy breaks into your house, you're going to have a much better chance against a guy with a knife than a gun. People might be surprised at the number of household implements that can actually make handy weapons.
    You hear a noise downstairs, get the gun, point it at the door? How are you going to defend yourself with a knife in that situation?

    Any household implements you can use he can use too. You're still going to have to fight him and that's very very risky. I'm even giving you the benefit of the doubt here and saying that outlawing guns guarantees he doesn't have one.

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