Marian reforms better then Imperial?

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 09-30-2007, 21:39

The Marian Era only gets three Cavalry Auxilia, which remain in the Imperial Reforms. All of the other Auxilia actually require the Imperial Reform in order to get.

**Respenus** · 09-30-2007, 21:41

Oh, I meant this aux:
Antesignani (Post Marian Elite Legionary Light Infantry)

Sorry, my bad. Light Infantry.

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 09-30-2007, 21:56

Oh, those guys are more of actual Legionaries.

I like the Auxilia Heavy Spearmen more then them, anyways. More numbers, more historically prevelent, easier to recruit, and they seem to do a better job at assisting standard Legionaries then the Anstesignani do.

Plus, in 080, when I got the Imperial Reforms, Anstesignani were available in both eras.

**NeoSpartan** · 10-01-2007, 05:13

no way jose

The Imperial Legionaries are a lil better, the new cavarly auxilia is better, and the new spearmen auxilia are more numerous.

**Respenus** · 10-01-2007, 08:27

Originally Posted by NeoSpartan

no way jose

The Imperial Legionaries are a lil better, the new cavarly auxilia is better, and the new spearmen auxilia are more numerous.

OK, don't crucify me!

Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

Oh, those guys are more of actual Legionaries.

I like the Auxilia Heavy Spearmen more then them, anyways. More numbers, more historically prevelent, easier to recruit, and they seem to do a better job at assisting standard Legionaries then the Anstesignani do.

Plus, in 080, when I got the Imperial Reforms, Anstesignani were available in both eras.

That's good to hear. I really like them, strong units, even though the Imperial aux might be better against cavalry.

How do you mean, they assist normal Legionaries better?

BTW, back to my original question. What is the recruitment difference between Marian and Imperial?

**Dram** · 10-01-2007, 09:04

you get imperial legionaires instead of marian ones, praetorian infantry and cavalry, and your recruitment range is expanded so that you can get romanised armoured spear auxilia (east and west variety) in many provinces where you previously couldent recruit any factional units. im not sure if you lose the antesigniani or re-enlisted veteran's cohort or not, they might be replaced by the praetorians as elite infantry. obviously the improved recruitment range is the most useful thing here.

**The Wicked** · 10-01-2007, 13:33

Well you are speaking for Marian and Imperial reforms, but in my campaing with Makedonia the Romans in 206 bc are still in the Camilan era and they are overrunned by Carthage from the south and the germans from the north and i own Taras with 6 turns to remain to build the royal palace but still no reforms...