problem with a map that don't want to load

[Patrizius]

Hi i'm new here and i'm the leaader of Res Bellicae, a new mod for RTW.After i have read a 1000 tutorial i can't see what is wrong with this map.It's just a beginnig but it should work in my opinion.But when i try to load it in rtw iit immediantly CDT.What can i do? Hopesomeone solve my BIG problem.

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Rt...ad/Italica.zip

here there a re the filesof the cmpaign,excluded the one in text directory.
If someone is so kindhearted to help me i ' ll appreciate it

[Charge]

I'm sure here Mak will help you (her guide).

[Red Spot]

I'm not really sure if these things cause problems, just running through the things that I ... er ... do different ...

-map_radar2 ==> make it the size of map_regions (240*304px)
-map_radar1 ==> 1/4 the size of radar2 (120*152px)

if your modding 1.3 or above I think these lines in descr_strat are no longer used;
-settlement_tax 50

imo you need a family-member for at least 2 factions (and set these families up correctly)

a direct CTD "probably" in this instance means you have incorrectly set up some units name OR have just experianced the landmass bug
(to test if its the landmass bug or not, start your descr_strat file with like "xxx", if you get a KTM now instead of a CTD its the incorrect naming thingy, else probably the landmass bug)

but before you do anything I really really really (I mean it ..;)) read up on the tut. Charge linked as well as this one;
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=50437

ps; I dont think, by looking over them, that your files contain errors, but the above 2 mentioned problems are 2 I havent/cant check out for you ...


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[Makanyane]

Map has also got quite a large area of sea especially in the bottom right corner, if it isn't generating a map.rwm (is it making one?) then it might just be the old landmass (too large an individual area of sea) problem.

If you are not getting .rwm and nothing else works try just in map_heights.tga putting in some more areas of land RGB1,1,1 or higher to break up the sea - if that works you'll need to re-design map so its either smaller overall or crop it differently so there isn't such a large sea area at the bottom.

[Patrizius]

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Rt...Wupload/io.zip

i have re-maded the map to have more land.This time things go better(the other map doesn't make a .rwm thisone does).But i still getting a CDT... .MAybe because i have set up to few regions?I just don't want to go adding regions if i don't know if it 's buggy and then maybe start again .Again i have checked all possible common CDT...so it must be something else.

[Makanyane]

It might well be having problems with too few regions (or more likely the fact that the big ones are too large) try adjusting map_regions so the small ones cover more of map.

My computer used to load maps with large regions but they would crash the graphics later when scrolling. Depending on computer you might find yours won't load it with that large a region.

[Patrizius]

thanks anyway can you please look at my data.Just to be sure i haven't maded some little error i can't see

[Red Spot]

same as yesterday, remove or adjust the size of your map_radar# maps, I've never been able to load a map with those maps not in such size that the larger one of the 2 (map2) is as large as map_regions, yours is 4 times that size ..

next to that (wich I also pointed out yesterday!) you havent set up any families, you "need" those, not sure if it could cause a CTD but it will prevent your game from loading ..

also remove that little bit of that large region in between the other 2 regions, not sure if it really causes CTD, do know the AI doesnt like it.


Anyway before you do anything or ask for more advise I really do suggest you actually start reading it ....

as example some of my files or parts of it;
files of my map(check the sizes!);




family in descr_strat;

character	Flavius Julius, named character, leader, age 38, , x 289, y 190 
traits GoodCommander 3
army
unit		roman generals guard cavalry early		exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

character	Lucius Julius, named character, heir, age 19, , x 220, y 121 
traits GoodCommander 2
army
unit		roman generals guard cavalry early		exp 2 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

character	Quintus Julius, named character, age 18, , x 289, y 121 
traits GoodCommander 1
army
unit		roman generals guard cavalry early		exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

character	Vibius Julius, named character, age 17, , x 220, y 190 
traits GoodCommander 1
army
unit		roman generals guard cavalry early		exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

character	Amulius Julius, named character, age 16, , x 288, y 178 
traits GoodCommander 1
army
unit		roman generals guard cavalry early		exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 1

character_record		Faustina, 	female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 37, alive, never_a_leader

relative 	Flavius Julius, 	Faustina,	Lucius Julius,	Quintus Julius,	Vibius Julius,	Amulius Julius,	end

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[Patrizius]

thanks!I have solved a part of he problem.The CDT was caused by too large regions.I added 3 regions and now it work.I still getting errors like "can't create settlement at line".Any idea how to solve?

[Patrizius]

and i have set a leader for each faction.Is that enough?

[Makanyane]

A leader for each faction should be enough to get it working (I used to think you needed the family set up but you don't seem to in BI so hopefully RTW is same)

Pay attention to which settlement it is telling you it can't create. Open strat file in notepad, make sure you're not on wordwrap format and use Edit, Go-To to find the line number its complaining about.

You have a block of mountain between your top two cities, if you've mis-judged the alignment you might be trying to put city on the impassible mountain terrain.
Also it can give that error sometimes regarding port positions - check your corrected_regions.tga which should now have generated in the main RTW folder to see if port looks right.

Only other thing to watch; you do have non-standard buildings in the strat file. Make sure modfolder, or where-ever you are placing the campaign, actually has those new buildings in its export_descr_buildings.txt

[Patrizius]

i haven't make any region with ports.My map now make a rmw but exit immediantly after with no err.sometimes it says the cannot create a settlement error.Sometimes not

[Patrizius]

What happend is this:
1)My rmw is generated.I have checked for cities on impassable maountains and nothing found
2)If i put a "xxx" in any part of descr region i get a KTM.If i put it after end date in descr_strat i get a KTM but if i put it after the first "faction romans_julii,fortified caesar" i get a CDT.
Any idea????!?!!?

[Charge]

What is "xxx"?
Upload your latest version, I might spot it...

[Makanyane]

just looked at descr strat again - the RTW one has

brigand_spawn_value 10
pirate_spawn_value 28

under the playable / unplayable section - it probably needs values for that

compare to the original strat and try adding that



Also exactly when does it CTD when it CTD's ? If its 3/4's way down the loading bar it could still be the thing RedSpot mentioned about radar maps unless you fixed (or prefereably just removed) them.

And as Charge says - if you don't get anywhere upload it again....

[Charge]

You have maded it with Time... I don't use it, one time tested, but there was nothing but CTD.
In a second link you have a) no faction leaders (I bet needed named_character instead of general, and for all factions?)
b) 3 factions have no settlements
c) as Mak said, no brigand/pirate spawn value

and there is no text folder. Include it in the next upload

[Patrizius]

http://files-upload.com/files/537318...ella%20(6).zip

sorry you have to wait but those are all the files!Copy them in right place and then say "HAHAHAAHHAAHrg " why it doesn't work???
If someone get it to work i will be the happiest of men

[Charge]

This daaammmnn it Rapida' s without resume are just annoying! Rip off on 7%...

Future advice - don't upload files on this servers! use filefront instead.

[Makanyane]

The Dl did work for me I had to change a couple of things to get past show_err errors, your files are obviously based on mod resources and buildings etc, which I dont have.

Main problem though seems to be map_regions.tga you had some spare colours in that around sea border. Try with just the map_regions I changed. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GO393VU3

If that doesn't work also try the regions and strat file I included. And try deleting your radar_maps, not sure if they are still problem but I removed anyway to simplify process..

After that it loaded using BI.exe -mod (can't find my RTW disc atm) but should work on RTW too.

[Patrizius]

http://files.filefront.com/Nuova+car.../fileinfo.html

here it is on filefront.

[Makanyane]

incase you missed post above please read - think I fixed it

P.S. I agree with Charge, avoid TiMe editor like the plague....

[Patrizius]

THANKS!I'LL TRY IT IMMEDIANTLY.Anyway you can delete all resource and buildings from cities.I can always add them later.I just want his map to work..

[Patrizius]

IT WORKKSSSS
Great!Now i can go and make my campaign.Thanks a lot.I'll post later if i have troumble.

[Red Spot]

What is "xxx"?

a simple bug-tracker ..;)

just put it where you think there is a CTD-causing error, does it than revert to a KTM it can help you pinpoint the error, it often is just a very helpfull way of getting something usefull out of show_err when you're really stuck.
(you can use anything that is clearly "wrong code", I just gave "xxx" as example earlier as I use that myself)


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[Patrizius]

Is someone interested in making this map?I just need the basic(a big italian map) .If someone want it can even add cities to the map.

[Patrizius]

i have a little problem.THIS descr_strat has a bug.I'm sure it's here but i can't find where.I tried an older one and it works.Al name of units are correct(other case it would be a ktm instead of a CDT and rome segnalate this typeof error normally).Any idea.In other cass i'll have to redo a lot o f work.PLEASSE


http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Rt...rat_errore.txt

[Squid]

I'd try placing XXX in some location in the file. If the CTD is after the point you place it at, you should get a KTM, if it's before you should CTD.

[Patrizius]

i tried it.It crashes anyway.Seem like i forgot something with generals....
if i use subfaction option for a named general,should it have a general unit?

[Squid]

I don't think so, but you can only use sub factions for the slave faction.

[Patrizius]

strange i have used them a lot and never a problem.The map anyway crash when the loading bar reaches the end