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    I have been tabulating the success rates of the assassins versus various types of agents and troops and have come to the following list:

    +5 97%
    +4 95%
    +3 93%
    +2 90%
    +1 86%
    +0 83%
    -1 76%
    -2 66%
    -3 50%
    -4 34%
    -5 24%
    -6 17%
    -7 14%
    -8 10%
    -9 7%

    This is for emissaries where the left side is the difference in valour. For princesses add +3 to that list, for religious types +1, for generals +4, and for leader +6.


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    I'd like to know if a spy or assassin's chance of eluding border forts is improved as they level up.

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    Quote Originally posted by Arkatreides:
    I have been tabulating the success rates of the assassins versus various types of agents and troops and have come to the following list:

    +5 97%
    +4 95%
    +3 93%
    +2 90%
    +1 86%
    +0 83%
    -1 76%
    -2 66%
    -3 50%
    -4 34%
    -5 24%
    -6 17%
    -7 14%
    -8 10%
    -9 7%

    This is for emissaries where the left side is the difference in valour. For princesses add +3 to that list, for religious types +1, for generals +4, and for leader +6.
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    While actually paying very close attention in my Games I agree your rates of +3 to +5 assassins.

    But totally disagree with rates on the 0 to +1. In my experience they are successful less then 50% of the time.

    Am I mis-reading your data ?

    Thanks


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    Maybe I didn't explain it properly. The left side of the table is the DIFFERENCE in valour between your assassin and the target emissary. So if you have a +5 assassin and an +2 emissary, the effective level is +3, so 93%. If he is attacking a valour +2 princess instead, you add +3 to her valour, i.e. get +6, the difference is now -1, so a 76% chance of success. Attacking a level 6 leader (effective +12) would bring the difference to -7, so only 14% chance. Hope this is a bit clearer.

    Nelson, as far as I know, yes, but this is hard to check due to the way the program handles random numbers.


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    Nice. I get 0 a lot when assassinating Byzantine generals. I still keep on attempting just to give them bad vices then drop a spy later on. Sometimes, I'd do that to an heir and kill the rest to give a faction a bad heir when I don't want to eliminate them just yet.

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    Quote Originally posted by Nelson:
    I'd like to know if a spy or assassin's chance of eluding border forts is improved as they level up.

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    It certainly seems that way to me, my level 5 assasin has chased a few targets round Europe before getting him and got away with it
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    Quote Originally posted by DoJo MoJo I:
    While actually paying very close attention in my Games I agree your rates of +3 to +5 assassins.

    But totally disagree with rates on the 0 to +1. In my experience they are successful less then 50% of the time.

    Am I mis-reading your data ?

    Thanks

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    What level are you playing on? I'm on normal and the qouted rates seem pretty accurate ie 70% ish success rate for a lvl 0 assasin, but I've seen a few posts from people playing hard and expert who say that the qouted success rate and actual success rate are different. Which is dumb - if the success rate is actually lower cos its a harder lvl then the qouted % should be lower


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