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    Default javelin V phalanx

    been playing as and against Successor States and what i really dont understand is why javelins are such useless against phalanx.
    it is really frustrating to see 240 javelins fly into phalanx formation without inflicting a single casualty! how is that possible? what is the reason for such an outcome? phalanx being attack from the rear with the same, 240 javelins will only suffers somewhere between 2 and 10 loses! why?
    imo it is really unrealistic and unbalanced.
    any explanations?

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    what difficutly where u playing in?????

    Phalanxes are given strong defensive points for frontal attacks, while having lower defensive points for side or rear attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoSpartan
    what difficutly where u playing in?????

    Phalanxes are given strong defensive points for frontal attacks, while having lower defensive points for side or rear attacks.
    playing o Medium battle difficulty.
    it is obvious that frontal defence should be and is better, but not to a degree when they are completely invinsible, super men.

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    Default Re: javelin V phalanx

    Thats becoz of a very low javelin' atack IMO. And yes , phalanx gains very big bonus against missiles coz of "spears, which beat off missiles", in any direction, btw. From rear they only haven't shield defence.

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    There is also a defense bonus just for being in the phalanx formation
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    Default Re: javelin V phalanx

    Neither difficulty nor defense will influence missile effectivenes, only the armour and shield values do. Phalangites generally are well-armoured have increased shield values to simulate the deflective abilities of their formation. They are somewhat lower in defense than similarly trained and equiped troops, though, but that does not influence the current situation.

    Also, javelins are rather weak in EB: historically they were more an irritative weapon than a killing one. Frontal javelin attacks at phalanxes are not very effective: you have to get to their unshielded side or their back in order to do serious damage, and even then don't expect a single unit of peltasts to be able to cripple a phalanx unit,
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    Default Re: javelin V phalanx

    I think the phalanx missle defense is excessive. I also agree that javelins are too weak. IIRC, most javelins have the same missle damage as arrows. Perhaps there are gameplay reasons for this, such as not wanting overpowered skirmishers.
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