It's a dangerous job, I hope everyone is fine
sidenote, I heard that in China these accidents usually aren't accidents but insurance schemes by the traids, pretty cold
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It's a dangerous job, I hope everyone is fine
sidenote, I heard that in China these accidents usually aren't accidents but insurance schemes by the traids, pretty cold
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That's unfettered capitalism in an authoritatian cleoptocracy for ya.
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Well I just call it criminal. Not everyone is fit for capitalism, it requires a whole lot of responsibility towards the community and personal integrity. Without that it can't work.Originally Posted by Watchman
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As far as business by itself goes, morals and ethics are really just a hindrance. Which is why things like social and cultural norms and, ultimately as relying on those alone tends not be a good idea, enforced laws are needed.
That's specifically why I used the term "unfettered"; a good part of human activity turns predatory and malignant when allowed to run its course without internal or external restraints.
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
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Our cultural norms evolved in a highly competitive society and we are doing fine. The norm create the laws not the other way around, a written insurance for the society we created.
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I'd say one central running theme of most legislation for the past few hundred years has specifically been the protection of the individual from excesses by other (stronger) individuals or groups thereof, which is the natural side effect of that "competition".
Take away those protections and you'll see just how far the values alone carry without the big stick to back them up. A Hobbesian jungle is what you get, as readily enough witnessed in many a sorry slum and plantation and sweatshop and brothel around the world.
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
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People will try to break the system regardless, but I think 99% of the people are decent (or calculative take your pick) when it comes to bigger issues. I think the fear for abandoment is bigger then the need for succes, we are social creatures after all. When the lower classes organised they weren't a threat, workers enough for the big bosses, but they got big enough to get their moral appeal across. Take away the protection by law and we will probably see a shortlived drawback to the situations in the early 1900's, how long do you think that will last? They can't get away with it because of what we already established. Here in the netherlands employers and employees are called 'social partners', we are all socialists at heart that's why we don't need socialism.
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