Out of character thread XIV

**Privateerkev** · 10-10-2007, 17:09

with the story thread, i always go the safe route and assume that Jan would not know it IC. Then, I look at every fact and try to think if Jan would know it IC. Then I try to see if there is enough to start an "investigation". If I feel like it, I'll pm the GM and state my case as to how and why Jan is investigating. The GM will decide whether it is valid. Then I may or may not get permission to pretend that OOC knowledge is now IC knowledge. Then I can have Jan act on it.

It's how Jan rescued Matthias. I read the story but only knew it OOC. TC and I were able to figure out what our character's knew from it IC and start from there. TC decided that the battle-site would be reasonably easy for the Adana garrison to find and sent that information to Jan. (he pretended the Adana garrison told Lothar. Then Lothar told Jan.) I asked Econ IC and OOC if Jan could investigate. Due to my avatar being so close, Econ signed off on it. He then gave me permission to treat OK's story as IC information. Jan also wrote Theodora a letter and asked her to look into it. Econ replied IC as Theodora and told Jan even more information. Then Jan acted off of that by rescuing Matthias.

**Stig** · 10-10-2007, 17:14

Well, you try to use your best judgment. A story about two people having a conversation is probably secret and you shouldn't use it. A story about an event that you were not at, is different. People talk. People hear things. You can claim that you heard something as a rumor. Doesn't have to even be true. It's a rumor. Though the use of rumors could effect how your perceived by others. Just like real life.

Aye, something like that yes
If I write a story it's most of the time about things Ansehelm thinks about ... no-one knows those things.
However I sometimes also create some sort of background story (Schloss Folklung, Gert von Runstede, many small skirmishes with Poles leading to a battle (while in real there was only one big battle)) ... and those are more or less known to others.

**econ21** · 10-10-2007, 17:20

With the heist story, I think pretty much all of it would be public. Captain Jan would find out the Treasury caravan had disappeared - the abandoned wagons on the road to Naples would be uncovered; there would tracks and eye witness stories of riders heading south at haste. It would be pretty clear the Byzantines had grabbed it. Theodora's letter to the Treasury, her disappearance, her "I'll be back" note and the fact that her servant was leading the caravan would all point the finger of suspicion at her setting up the heist.

I can't see any part of the story that would remain unknown - it was written largely from the German - specifically Captain Jan's - point of view. And the good Captain would tell all (well, not a transcript of the conversations, but the essential facts).

**TinCow** · 10-10-2007, 17:26

Originally Posted by Privateerkev

TC decided that the battle-site would be reasonably easy for the Adana garrison to find and sent that information to Jan. (he pretended the Adana garrison told Lothar. Then Lothar told Jan.)

Actually, the info I gave you came straight from a PM OverKnight sent me telling me what the response was to my inquiries about Matthias' location. I did not invent it.

**Privateerkev** · 10-10-2007, 17:35

Ah, I did not know that. Well, my way would have worked to. I think it would have been entirely reasonable for the Duke of Bavaria to have been given a report from the Adana garrison. Especially finding the battle site. That's what I assumed happened. Well, we all know what happens when you assume...

^_^

**TinCow** · 10-10-2007, 17:49

Well, that is pretty much what happened. That was info sent to Lothar from Outremer in response to his attempts to find Matthias. The only difference is that OverKnight wrote it, not me.

**Privateerkev** · 10-10-2007, 17:53

True. My point was, in my opinion, it would have been ok if you had wrote it. Thats all. That is what I originally thought you did. But since I believed it would be reasonable for Lothar to know that IC, I didn't question it.

But, it seems I have been operating off of a faulty assumption the whole time. Story of my life... ^_^

**Tamur** · 10-10-2007, 18:24

I think if we become any more precise with this discussion, we'll all have very bad flashbacks to graduate school. Heaven forbid!

**Privateerkev** · 10-10-2007, 18:26

but... I'm in graduate school! o_o

must examine my own assumptions. must examine my own assumptions. must...ect...

*says this while shivering in a fetal position*

**econ21** · 10-10-2007, 19:47

Taking back the save. I am worried about Bucharest and won't end turn until I hear from Cecil, so there may be another battle or two tomorrow.

**Northnovas** · 10-10-2007, 20:17

Originally Posted by econ21

Taking back the save. I am worried about Bucharest and won't end turn until I hear from Cecil, so there may be another battle or two tomorrow.

If he is unable or does not get back within a reasonable time frame then I will take the save and fight the battle. We did agree that he would fight the Hungarian dogs.

**econ21** · 10-11-2007, 00:17

We have a defensive battle for 1316 for Matthias Steffen (Overknight):

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1316-5.zip

Report for 1316 coming up soon.

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-11-2007, 00:44

the package has been dropped. stand by for fall-out.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-11-2007, 00:56

Oh God I wish I wasn't on a boat right now.

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-11-2007, 00:57

rally to my aid, lutherans!

ironically im a catholic in real life (not a crazy one tho, for all u prejudiced fools! lol)

**Privateerkev** · 10-11-2007, 01:08

Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921

the package has been dropped. stand by for fall-out.

Oh I am waiting for fallout but I'm not seeing any... ;)

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-11-2007, 01:10

just wait till more lutherans log on lol

**Privateerkev** · 10-11-2007, 01:14

That whole "mob rule" thing didn't serve you guys too well at the Diet session now did it? ^_^

Without the "banstick", you guys can only yell a lot. Nothing more.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-11-2007, 01:17

I guarantee you that if we had a Diet session as normally scheduled the pro-Kaiser crowd would experience a significant defeat.

**Privateerkev** · 10-11-2007, 01:19

Only because there has been a script written specifically to honk a lot of people off. ^_^

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-11-2007, 01:37

peter isnt so ball-less as to ban people who speak. wait until they get violent, then theyre outta here. if jan wants to talk to peter, how about in person?

**Privateerkev** · 10-11-2007, 01:39

Ok, then Peter can call an emergency session if he is really Kaiser/Prince. ^_^

As for Jan, he is back in Outremer. He left to rescue Matthias and hasn't returned to the Diet since. Travel has gotten a lot harder lately.

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-11-2007, 01:43

haha, well the end of the term is almost here, and i'd annoy so many people OOC that I wouldnt bother. i dont want to slow down the game in an intense spot like now, unless econ is going to be gone or something and it wont move on anyways. besides! hes gamemaster lol i cant unelect him and use my 2-year prerogative lol

**Privateerkev** · 10-11-2007, 01:48

In other words, Peter doesn't have the authority that he claims he has. ;)

Remember, in-game, we don't know Peter is Prince. So, some won't believe it without proof or word from Elberhard.

**RoadKill** · 10-11-2007, 01:53

I feel like I'm the only one supporting Peter constantly.

**Privateerkev** · 10-11-2007, 01:59

Oh I have a feeling Peter is getting plenty moral support from behind the scenes. ^_^

He did what a whole lot of characters wanted to do.

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-11-2007, 02:04

yeah, nobody else is logged on. i hope a pro-peter guy comes on before FH or econ lol.

**Privateerkev** · 10-11-2007, 02:10

At the moment, more pro-Peter guys wouldn't do much but add to the yelling in the Diet. Which could be fun but would do nothing to prove Peter's case that he is Prince. ^^

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-11-2007, 02:15

true, but if enough people are yelling there wont be enough voices to drown them out.

coup d'etat of napoleon, any history buffs?

**Privateerkev** · 10-11-2007, 02:21

They can yell but they can't actually do anything. Once it stops being fun to debate with them, the clerk will just fade out.

I've been having a blast though.

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