gaining chevrons

**overweightninja** · 10-05-2007, 23:27

lol now we know! However now I think I do remember seeing a post or something which explains the whole lot in detail...I'll try to find and post the link here.
For now I do remember at least one thing, and that's that killing routing units gains a lot less experience than units that are still fighting (perhaps around 1/5th if IIRC?).
Anyways I'll see what I can find...

**Megas Methuselah** · 10-05-2007, 23:32

Aight... I guess we'll all just... kind of... well... wait...?

**overweightninja** · 10-05-2007, 23:35

lol you might be waiting a while, no luck so far :D

Found this topic covered already in another thread though, quite relevant stuff in there (or it could just be what I was talking about in my last post, but I guess no "definitive" evidence)...

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84480

**overweightninja** · 10-06-2007, 13:11

Originally Posted by overweightninja

lol now we know! However now I think I do remember seeing a post or something which explains the whole lot in detail...I'll try to find and post the link here.
For now I do remember at least one thing, and that's that killing routing units gains a lot less experience than units that are still fighting (perhaps around 1/5th if IIRC?).
Anyways I'll see what I can find...

What you have just quoted is the post I was referring to there, thanks Aradan lol!

*takes Balloon from EdwardL*

sorry it's not brand new, but there you go

Well that's that settled then...next?

**alatar** · 10-06-2007, 16:10

Once one of my roman legoins was ambushed, it was in deep forest so I ordered everyone to chearge the right, into a clearing, from there most regrouped, but deep in the forest separated units were still being attacked, well after the main gaulic force had retreeated.
Alsmost every unit got experiance, which was nice.

**madmatg** · 10-06-2007, 19:09

i have at least a few times, had an army attack me or be attacked and then when we get to the field they flee without a shot being fired or any blood drawn, AND had units gain experience how do you explain that

?

**overweightninja** · 10-06-2007, 19:20

Originally Posted by madmatg

i have at least a few times, had an army attack me or be attacked and then when we get to the field they flee without a shot being fired or any blood drawn, AND had units gain experience how do you explain that

?

Yup, happens to me quite often, its a bloody pain with EB's loading times.
I've noticed sometimes if I fight a battle and I'm in a very secure position, or if I am able to make (sometimes very few, as little as maybe 10) casualties on the enemy from missile fire without losing too much/anything myself the army will sometimes retreat.

Now apart from crap AI, I theorise that there is a point in the balance of the two armies, that if its on or over in the AIs favour, it thinks "yup I'll have this", and obviously if it's below it thinks "Bollocks to this I'm off!". My theory is that when the battle is engaged, the balance is on or above this point, however when you get in the battle itself, those few casualties or possibly simply the formation/position of your army can make that balance drop back below the midpoint (if it was low enough to begin with), so the enemy retreats.

As I said this is just a theory, but seems pretty plausible to me, hopefully someone can confirm this as truth or rubbish :)

Personally if I see the enemy is definitely withdrawing when I'm up for the fight, I just send my cavalry to chase them down. As neighboring units rarely stop to help their colleagues when retreating, you can usually run them down one at a time until they're dead or off the map.

Cheers

**Parkev** · 10-07-2007, 05:54

Originally Posted by madmatg

i have at least a few times, had an army attack me or be attacked and then when we get to the field they flee without a shot being fired or any blood drawn, AND had units gain experience how do you explain that

?

I just played a battle where, a re-enforcing army did not show up AT ALL, and three of its units got +1 experience. Go figure. Got a screen shot if anyone won't believe me. Then again most people will believe anything mildly plausible when it comes to RTW mechanics.

**Sygrod** · 10-07-2007, 12:57

I have also noticed some units gaining a chevron without dropping a single enemy. Perhaps just being there helps? I also had a medium phalanx slug it out with a massive amount of enemy infantry. It must have killed quite a few, but was reduced from 122 to 28. No chevron there.

In 213 BC, playing as Pontos, my best unit is a slinger unit at 3 silver chevrons. My best melee unit is a levy phalanx with 3 bronze chevrons.