Unit changes in EB 1

[Anu]

its just a bunch of stuff got to do with Sumerian mythology etc.

[Bootsiuv]

@Neospartan

Oh, Foots the worst....

I can tell absolutely no difference between that post and one of his normal ones....most teammembers at least give some hint that they're joking.



@russia almighty

It's highly unlikely they'll give any of that information before the release. My gut tells me you're not going to be waiting long.

@Anu

Aaah....I see. Thanks for the clarification.

[blitzkrieg80]

the Swardimannoz were barely different from the Clubmen, who were low morale/training in .82a... in the next release, the clubmen are now more specialized warriors of better training since many would use clubs who were not just poor (clubmen had swords on their belt on Trajan's column, yet chose to wield clubs) and the Swardimannoz will become a fanatic version who intimidates the enemy, so they will be much more useful... I agree there would be no reason to build that regional if it didn't have something extra to offer, thus why I have reformed

the Wodanawulfoz are suppose to intimidate the enemy and already have very high stats because they're suppose to be fanatic / elite warriors who use their role as "Terrifying warriors" (seen in the Wild Hunt mythology which is far more common than from Germanic alone) also known as a Ghost army to scare warriors unaccustomed to such practices, similar shock to naked warfare, which they also do. They are no longer available anywhere except Silesia (Silengo?), so thus the unique practice of night raiders using "terrifying warrior" imagery is isolated to the actual reference of the Hari by Tacitus, although the name Hari is much debated, and I have thus circumvented that problem... I in-fact use a name from Beowulf for Grendel : Skaduganganz I have renamed them "Night walkers" instead of Wodanawulfoz because they don't necessarily have any association with Wodan other than his patronage of frenzied warriors in estatic trance and the Wolf-skin is a different concept from "Terrifying warriors", historically, as well as what will be implemented. There is still much debate left to see the Wolf-skin unit realized (although Blank, our wonderful artist has already created one) since they'd be very rare, even if there is a massive amount of Indo-European cultural reference and references to berserkr-like cults after the Migration Era.
I forgot to mention : don't put the Wodanawulfoz on your frontline : they don't have armor and thus won't last long in such a role... use them for flanking manuevers especially and watch the enemy panic and get slaughtered (hopefully).

I have slain that horrible unit of the Merjoz which had a medieval-like axe as if from Canute's Huscarls and a totally unattested Proto-Germanic adjective-as-noun unit title... a 2-handed clubman Bear-skin champion of the name Bernoz aka Bjorn (in Old Norse) which means both "Champion" and Bear" is hopefully going to make it eventually, but that has similar problems being accepted by skeptics for the same reasons as the Wolf-skins.

I don't plan to make either of the animal-skin wearing units to be drug-crazed fanatics / berserkir, since it is much more plausable that a Hero unit would wear a skin because of style and status and thus could possibly exist, whereas the idea that being a berserkr was a common cultural theme is much harder to prove... although I must say, the Celtic element has no physical evidence for their naked fanatics- oh well. The early Germanic peoples are just cursed with a lack of interest by classical writers.

[Anu]

that is nice to hear. I'm looking forward to that. Interesting.

[konny]

I hope Eastern Infantry are back for all Eastern factions!

And recruitable all over the world!

[Watchman]

But what everyone's really dying to know is, "where are the pigs?" Nothing like some bacon to spice up a fight.
Let's keep our priorities straight here.

[LotW89]

In EB 1.0 will be fewer units then in EB 0.81 ?
This can't be serious!

[Bactron]

In EB 1.0 will be fewer units then in EB 0.81 ?
This can't be serious!

Don't worry mate. Those guys are obviously joking. There will be more units in the next release.

[johnhughthom]

It's hard enough to tell when they aren't serious, if english isn't your first language it must be nigh on impossible

[Sassem]

But what everyone's really dying to know is, "where are the pigs?" Nothing like some bacon to spice up a fight.
Let's keep our priorities straight here.

Yeah i want them back

The neighborhood is getting suspicious

[overweightninja]

It's hard enough to tell when they aren't serious, if english isn't your first language it must be nigh on impossible

Even if it is it often doesn't help much

[Krusader]

In EB 1.0 will be fewer units then in EB 0.81 ?
This can't be serious!

*Checks EB*

*Takes a look at export_descr_units.txt*

*Notices there are 100 or so more EDU entries or changed ones since 0.80*

[carthage_supreme]

Well we lumped all horse archers in one unit like all catphracts. Most celtic units have been killed also (because they were overpowered) there are only 2 remaining : spear-warband and sword-warband. The camillan and polybian roman roster have been deleted to make some room. And the hellenic has to drop some units also, no more argyraspidai, thorakitai, hetairoi, prodromoi etc....

OMG! NOOOOOOOOOO? why have you taken our wonderfull hellenic units? ? why!!! mister , you took our candy.

[LotW89]

It's hard enough to tell when they aren't serious, if english isn't your first language it must be nigh on impossible

Actually I am german, so english isn't my first language^^

[johnhughthom]

That was my point...

[The Celt]

Well we lumped all horse archers in one unit like all catphracts. Most celtic units have been killed also (because they were overpowered) there are only 2 remaining : spear-warband and sword-warband. The camillan and polybian roman roster have been deleted to make some room. And the hellenic has to drop some units also, no more argyraspidai, thorakitai, hetairoi, prodromoi etc....

*The Celt's inner-child has died*

[russia almighty]

I have an excellent bullshit meter for sale guys .

[Foot]

Apparently the EB fans are so gullible that they would buy a door from a door-to-door salesperson. Oh so many good ideas.

Foot

[Tellos Athenaios]

*The Celt's inner-child has died*

No more hounding us with Celtic Cataphracts then?

[The Celt]

No more hounding us with Celtic Cataphracts then?

Oh you wish!

[Bootsiuv]

Foot, your post showed no signs of joking....that was why it was so great. Your clearly aligned with the forces of evil...almost every other member adds a smilie or gives some sort of sarcastic comment. You are an enigma, friend. Who the hell knows if your pissed, happy, joking, etc., because your posts always look the same.

You have the eyes and minds of thousands of EB fans on you everyday, and you tease them mercilessly.

Thank goodness you aren't president (or PM, depending on where you live I guess).

Sincerely
A Gullible EB Fan

[Lusitan]

Lusitan warsheep were prety deadly when used in large numbers agaist the Romans. I expect to see them in 1.0 already.

[Admetos]

Don't forget the cataphract camel drawn female ninja chariots.

[Olaf The Great]

Well we lumped all horse archers in one unit like all catphracts. Most celtic units have been killed also (because they were overpowered) there are only 2 remaining : spear-warband and sword-warband. The camillan and polybian roman roster have been deleted to make some room. And the hellenic has to drop some units also, no more argyraspidai, thorakitai, hetairoi, prodromoi etc....

Well that is so obviously TRUE.

[MerlinusCDXX]

so...basically this means that all of the historical Hellenic and Diadochi units will be replaced by regional Cylon ceturion Kataphraktoi on StarWars speeder bikes (with the Bartix deathray upgrade being made available in the level3 regional MIC) that are recruitable by all factions in all provinces...SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!

ps-while we're at it, can we get DeathStars for the Romani...they're still a bit underpowered (with Lorica Segmentata of course) and bring this guy back

[Spendios]

Well that is so obviously TRUE.

What make you think it isn't ?

[Arkatreides]

Well, as someone who has been doing the cards it has been great for me this summer. I thought I would have had a mad rush getting things ready for 1.0 but it has been much easier with all the new unit groups. I cannot tell you everything right here (or the bosses will kill me) but basically the whole concept of needing recruitment maps and MIC tiers is no longer an issue. Neither is having 20 different spearmen units for the same faction. It is much more streamlined and much more straightforward to grasp for newcomers. I personally think it was getting silly when some people were even thinking of pushing the number of units up to the hardcoded 500 limit. So yeah, fewer units, less recruitment issues, more straightforward recruitment.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Some replacement unit suggestions:

1) Bartix Warband


Can use spears, axes and clubs. Can hide in the wood. Special ability: Warcry

2) Bartix Elite Bodyguard and


Bartix Amazon Guard

Special ability: Scream

3) Bartix General


4) Bartix Katank

Special ability: Scare horses, elephants and anything on feet.
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[overweightninja]

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Some replacement unit suggestions:

lmfao! You want to get started on a mod of your own mate, the Bartix are truly to great for the world of EB

[blank]

I decided to leak some of our secret new units... hush hush

The new Getai general concept



The revamped ninja unit (replaces the Roman principes)