Flaming Javelins

[Captn. James Crunch]

Possible?

[Monkwarrior]

Possible?

Yes.

[Captn. James Crunch]

NICE
Two questions; First, does it replace the fiery arrows? and How do I do it myself?????

[Monkwarrior]

NICE
Two questions; First, does it replace the fiery arrows? and How do I do it myself?????

No. I created a new javelin projectile.

In descr_projectile_new.txt

projectile javelin

damage		0
radius		0
accuracy_vs_units		0.15
min_angle	-60
max_angle	70
velocity	30
display		aimed invert_model_z 
model		data/models_missile/weapon_javelin_high.cas, 40
model		data/models_missile/weapon_javelin_low.cas,  max

projectile javelin2

damage		0
radius		0
accuracy_vs_units		0.03
min_angle	-60
max_angle	70
velocity	30
display		aimed invert_model_z 
model		ITW/data/models_missile/falarica_high.cas, 40
model		ITW/data/models_missile/falarica_low.cas,  max

projectile flaming_javelin2

flaming		javelin2
effect 		fiery_arrow_set
end_effect	fiery_arrow_explosion_set
effect_offset	-0.85
damage		0
radius		0.1
accuracy_vs_units		0.05
fiery
min_angle	-60
max_angle	70
velocity	30
display		aimed particle_trail
model		ITW/data/models_missile/falarica_high.cas, 40
model		ITW/data/models_missile/falarica_low.cas,  max

The first one is the original javelin projectile.
I cloned this to make a new javelin2 projectile, and I changed the cas model to make it heavier, but without the shape of a pilum.
Then I cloned the flaming_arrow entry but renamed it as flamin_javelin2. Depending on the size of the projectile model, you must play with the effect_offset value to adjust the position of the flames.

Finally, you must include the reference to javelin2 in export_descr_unit.txt, for the units you want to use this weapon.

And that's all.

[mrdun]

If you changed the accuracy against units to 1 would that mean that if 20 velites attacked 20 hastati for example then the Hastati would be dead in one throw?

[Red Spot]

nope, this accuracy (in descr_projectile_new) works more or less in against nature, meaning 1.0 is very inaccurate and 0.01 is (possibly!)pretty accurate (its somewhat trial and error what works best for your needs)


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[Marcus Furius Camillus]

you don't want to share your CAS model, don't you ?
( I haven't installed yet/ can't install the CAS exporter )
Is a new CAS model really required ?

[Monkwarrior]

you don't want to share your CAS model, don't you ?
( I haven't installed yet/ can't install the CAS exporter )
Is a new CAS model really required ?

It is not required, if you want that the javelin "flying in flames" is the same as the original one. Or you can copy the model of pilum, if you want to use "flaming pila".

I don't remember if there are more missile models in RTW vanilla (apart from arrows and stones).

[Marcus Furius Camillus]

So it's just a question of copying the javelin- part, using the same .cas model, and add something to the javelin, so it will become flamin'


projectile javelin

damage 0
radius 0
accuracy_vs_units 0.15
min_angle -60
max_angle 70
velocity 30
display aimed invert_model_z
model data/models_missile/weapon_javelin_high.cas, 40
model data/models_missile/weapon_javelin_low.cas, max



projectile flaming_javelin2

flaming javelin2
effect fiery_arrow_set
end_effect fiery_arrow_explosion_set
effect_offset -0.85
damage 0
radius 0.1
accuracy_vs_units 0.05
fiery
min_angle -60
max_angle 70
velocity 30
display aimed particle_trail
model data/models_missile/weapon_javelin_high.cas, 40
model data/models_missile/weapon_javelin_low.cas, max


something like this ?

[Monkwarrior]

@Marcus Furius Camillus

You must copy the javelin entry and rename javelin2. If not, the flaming javelin2 is referring to a projectile that doesn't exist.

I forgot another detail.

This line in the normal model:

display aimed invert_model_z

indicates that the 3d model is in the wrong way. If you put simply

display aimed

you will see the the javelins flying with the point towards the javeliner.

The simplest solution would be to use this line in the flaming javelin:

display aimed invert_model_z particle_trail

but in fact I haven't used it.
I changed the orientation of the 3d model, and eliminated the invert_model_z option from the non-flaming projectile.