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    One thing ive always wanted to know about the Romani in this faction: if Rome was a Republic, meaning it was governed by the Senate, who is the faction leader? Should there even BE a faction leader? I suppose it's just done to keep the game simple, but am i right in saying there shouldn't be a Romani faction leader, or even heirs, since the idea of heirs gives the feeling of a monarchy, something Rome threw out long ago. cheers for educating me (again...and again...and again)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long lost Caesar
    One thing ive always wanted to know about the Romani in this faction: if Rome was a Republic, meaning it was governed by the Senate, who is the faction leader? Should there even BE a faction leader? I suppose it's just done to keep the game simple, but am i right in saying there shouldn't be a Romani faction leader, or even heirs, since the idea of heirs gives the feeling of a monarchy, something Rome threw out long ago. cheers for educating me (again...and again...and again)
    While I don't know enough to go into details, the Republic's armed forces were under the will of a Consul and a Pro-consul.(Citation needed) Though not holding quite as much power, they sorta acted like a US President and Vice president to Rome. They were elected from the senate body,(At first anyway..) and they were in charge of the armies and legions. They held four year terms,(or was it just one year?) and then handed their power over to another elected senator. I'm not sure on how many times one person could become Consul.
    I'm sure one of EB's Roman experts will gladly fill you in on the more specific stuff.
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    Nah, there were two Consuls yearly who were equal in power, though one was usually considered a Senior Consul and the other junior, based on the number of votes in the Centuriate assembly. Other important offices were the Censor who was basically in charge of government contracts and building, and the Princeps Senatus, who was the leader of the Senate, who usually influenced greatly how votes would go. No, there shouldnt be a 'faction leader' as a single person, but obviously this is limited by game restrictions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celt
    While I don't know enough to go into details, the Republic's armed forces were under the will of a Consul and a Pro-consul.(Citation needed) Though not holding quite as much power, they sorta acted like a US President and Vice president to Rome. They were elected from the senate body,(At first anyway..) and they were in charge of the armies and legions. They held four year terms,(or was it just one year?) and then handed their power over to another elected senator. I'm not sure on how many times one person could become Consul.
    I'm sure one of EB's Roman experts will gladly fill you in on the more specific stuff.
    You have the idea but, no...

    Two equal consuls, each with power of veto over each other. Each province had it's own pro-consul, and the terms were 12 months.

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    Again, not so. Not every province had a proconsul, or was every roman territory a provincia. Proconsul just means "one who goes in place of" a consul. Many provinces were adminstered by praetors or propraetors, while most were governed by one of the two Consuls for the year. Provincia in itself is simply a way of describing the general or imperator's area of concern of influence, and didnt come to mean physical territory until later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafien
    Nah, there were two Consuls yearly who were equal in power, though one was usually considered a Senior Consul and the other junior, based on the number of votes in the Centuriate assembly. Other important offices were the Censor who was basically in charge of government contracts and building, and the Princeps Senatus, who was the leader of the Senate, who usually influenced greatly how votes would go. No, there shouldnt be a 'faction leader' as a single person, but obviously this is limited by game restrictions.
    Ah that was it! I thought the "Pro-conul" thing sounded funny. It's been awhile since I've read up on Roman history, and all the books I have read are focused on the Early Imperial, Decline, or "Byzantine" eras. It's kinda hard to find good modern accounts about the Republic.(Late/Fall of the republic with Caesar and the gang not withstanding.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafien
    Again, not so. Not every province had a proconsul, or was every roman territory a provincia. Proconsul just means "one who goes in place of" a consul. Many provinces were adminstered by praetors or propraetors, while most were governed by one of the two Consuls for the year. Provincia in itself is simply a way of describing the general or imperator's area of concern of influence, and didnt come to mean physical territory until later.

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