Multiplayer game discussion

**Tomisama** · 10-23-2007, 03:09

Monday night reviews of my worst battles for this Sunday, not counting the Onin disasters (for me) which can be talked about later over on that topic.

CB, you ask what I was doing after that mizulands 18 game, referring to my total left flank positions destruction. I could not answer at the time, being to distraught. “Suicide” was the only thing that came to my mind, and I couldn’t spell it right, so took a walk.

If and when you watch the replay, please note that in the battle I could not see the five units on Fool’s hill, as they were hidden. I somehow counted wrong and thought there were only two. My YC attempt to test flush the area got caught, and the whole thing went off in a hand-basket after that. My apologies

And Yuuki, later after the mizulands 10 game, you said that you had helped me as much as you could with that flanking operation, and this was true, thank you. I think if I would have seen your attack and had pushed at the same time, things might have worked out differently, but I was a bit to far out on a limb there anyway, and should have been more conservtive. My apologies again

**Puzz3D** · 10-23-2007, 04:57

Originally Posted by Tomisama

Monday night reviews of my worst battles for this Sunday, not counting the Onin disasters (for me) which can be talked about later over on that topic.

It wasn't my intention to rush you in that huge unit 3v3 with no guns, but you moved to occupy the small hills in front of me. If I let you occupy them, I would then have to attack uphill. So, I move forward quickly to deny you that terrain. I did inform my allies that I was doing this as our preliminary plan was to attack on the other flank.

Originally Posted by Tomisama

CB, you ask what I was doing after that mizulands 18 game, referring to my total left flank positions destruction. I could not answer at the time, being to distraught. “Suicide” was the only thing that came to my mind, and I couldn’t spell it right, so took a walk.

I wasn't able to assist you in the flank move because I only had 2 YC for cavalry. I often only take 2 cav, and am reluctant to commit them to a flank move since I need them to protect the teppo units.

Originally Posted by Tomisama

If and when you watch the replay, please note that in the battle I could not see the five units on Fool’s hill, as they were hidden. I somehow counted wrong and thought there were only two. My YC attempt to test flush the area got caught, and the whole thing went off in a hand-basket after that. My apologies

My thought on this is that it might be better to accept the loss of the cav unit, and not throw more units into a situation where they have to move away from allied support.

Originally Posted by Tomisama

And Yuuki, later after the mizulands 10 game, you said that you had helped me as much as you could with that flanking operation, and this was true, thank you. I think if I would have seen your attack and had pushed at the same time, things might have worked out differently, but I was a bit to far out on a limb there anyway, and should have been more conservtive. My apologies again

My fault for the lack of coordination because I didn't tell you I was attacking. I misinterpreted your move forward with your WM and YS as the initialization of a full scale attack. I thought the strategic move to double one of the two separated enemy armies was a good idea. The attack has to be made before the enemy armies combine forces if there is to be any advantage for the attacking forces.

**TosaInu** · 10-23-2007, 11:56

Originally Posted by Puzz3D

It wasn't my intention to rush you in that huge unit 3v3 with no guns, but you moved to occupy the small hills in front of me. If I let you occupy them, I would then have to attack uphill. So, I move forward quickly to deny you that terrain. I did inform my allies that I was doing this as our preliminary plan was to attack on the other flank.

Yes.

My fault for the lack of coordination because I didn't tell you I was attacking. I misinterpreted your move forward with your WM and YS as the initialization of a full scale attack. I thought the strategic move to double one of the two separated enemy armies was a good idea. The attack has to be made before the enemy armies combine forces if there is to be any advantage for the attacking forces.

That's my chaos.

I intended to stay where I was, then decided to move away to join Asanorin and did so, noticed he was already moving towards me and partly arrived, moved back and then provoked too much and forced Yuuki into attack. Sorry.

It disrupted synchronisation, but as we were more compact/better overview and had the high ground, Asanorin could keep doing the right things.

**Noir** · 10-23-2007, 12:13

Originally posted by TosaInu
It disrupted synchronisation, but as we were more compact/better overview and had the high ground, Asanorin could keep doing the right things.

Yes - i had lots of time to react - Tosa bore and contained the initial attack so i was just filling the gaps in the melee line and could decide where to commit units for best effect.

I think i costed two games last Sunday to my team: the 3v3 defence me&Yuuki&Fool versus Tosa&CBR&Tomi and the other 3v3 defence me&Tosa&Tomi vs CBR&Yuuki&Ra's.

Thank God that i managed at (last & at) least to do the right things given that the conditions favored me (with reaction time) in the last game

Noir

**Puzz3D** · 10-23-2007, 13:56

Originally Posted by Noir

I think i costed two games last Sunday to my team: the 3v3 defence me&Yuuki&Fool versus Tosa&CBR&Tomi

The attackers shifted to our left. I shifted left to mirror that, but Fool stayed put on the right. That allowed the attackers to achieve a nearly 3 on 2 situation, and Fool wasn't quite able to pull the game out since you and I didn't have quite high enough kills before we were eliminated. The attackers made a good judgement in how much force they needed to take the hill with two defenders up there, and left behind enough of a diversionary force to keep Fool busy.

**TosaInu** · 10-24-2007, 22:01

Originally Posted by Noir

I think i costed two games last Sunday to my team: the 3v3 defence me&Yuuki&Fool versus Tosa&CBR&Tomi

I don't think so. We planned to attack left and avoid the hill, that didn't go that well, so we went right and overloaded the hill. I had 4 wm and the teppo didn't do lots of damage to them.

Thank God that i managed at (last & at) least to do the right things given that the conditions favored me (with reaction time) in the last game

Noir

That was only a moment in the battle and it's not really that you had seas of time. Before and after that you played good too.

**CBR** · 10-27-2007, 15:08

Originally Posted by Tomisama

Monday night reviews of my worst battles for this Sunday, not counting the Onin disasters (for me) which can be talked about later over on that topic.

Dont be too hard on yourself. Remember you did have a victory too last Sunday

I happened to be watching your cavalry charging into the trees and killing some guns(?) but they kept on moving further although enemy spears and cavalry came in for a counter attack. Were you busy looking somewhere else?

CBR

**Tomisama** · 10-27-2007, 17:02

Originally Posted by CBR

Dont be too hard on yourself. Remember you did have a victory too last Sunday

I happened to be watching your cavalry charging into the trees and killing some guns(?) but they kept on moving further although enemy spears and cavalry came in for a counter attack. Were you busy looking somewhere else?

CBR

That may have been the point when I was starting to send a team message stating that "I may have a way-in on this flank", comming over the hill to hit his visable fromation from behind. But before I could type it, and as I was held out by message mode, the unit locked into combat and I could not get them back

I should have known better, Fool is too good a player to be open to an attack like that. And I should have counted units to be sure that I had all of them in view. I remember taking a second look, but I didn't count them

Worse than that, I then played the gamblers addiction game of trying to win back losses, by investing more. This never works

**ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88** · 10-29-2007, 02:12

THat was a Intersting Game I fought in today with Large Units (again, I apogle for the error messages. 3v3 seems like the only games I can handle,check the other thread for info).

If Jochi didn't withdraw that fall back, I might have had a chance of getting him myself. But I screw up my formation when I was going forward, and his Yari was harassing me alot, and his HA was on that small hill (?), so that didn't look good for me.

**R'as al Ghul** · 11-12-2007, 17:38

Great games yesterday!
We had hordes of people...

Thanks for joining us, Tempiic, Jade and Grizzly. Hope to see you again.

**Jochi Khan** · 11-12-2007, 20:22

Yes, great games. One long evening of endless battles.

Good to see more players joining in. A welcome to...Jade, Tempiic and Grizzly.

Saw the Foyer peak at 27 online at one time.

**Tomisama** · 11-13-2007, 03:29

I missed playing with Jade And Tempiic, but maybe I will get another chance soon.

With two Samurai games running almost all the time, it was great fun.

Maybe we should have left the last game out (too tired), but other than that, it was a very great day indeed