Roman Governor Teaser

[LusitanianWolf]

Nice new stuff, perfect to RP!!

[Hooahguy]

romani is now offically #1 on my list to play!

[Hooahguy]

Agreed. EB 1.0 release date = bye bye good grades....

same, but it will be more severe: bye bye good grades AND wrestling!

[skuzzy]

What are the positive attributes associated with having this other than taking up one of our limited and precious retinue slots?

[Zaknafien]

oh you know, the standard bonuses for law and public security, influence, public unrest and such

[Mouzafphaerre]

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[Bootsiuv]

What are the positive attributes associated with having this other than taking up one of our limited and precious retinue slots?

I'd rather it were a retinue than a trait personally. Then one of them has them, I can basically determine who is the governor at that point.

That is, unless it won't let me switch them without meeting certain criteria, in which case, maybe they should be traits....

[I Am Herenow]

Great stuff!

Few questions:

1. Will puppet rulers be able to get this ancillary if you only have a puppet ruler in the appropriate province?
2. Are there only posts available for regions which the Romans conquered historically, or will you become a Governor of Arabia or whatever if you happen to conquer that part of the world?
3. Does being Governor of Rome/Italy give any additional bonuses/is it different in any way to the other positions?
4. If leaving the area you are governing removes the bonuses, have you made the bonuses go away for those "You have earnt the respect of the Lusotannan" etc. traits when you leave the area that they should be effective in?
5. How come you can stay in a settlement without doing anything when your FM dies and the Governor Ancillary will be passed on, but you have to destroy and rebuild the Type IV Government in order to get a new puppet ruler when the old puppet ruler dies?
6. Will any Romans get unique portraits at the start of the game?

Cheers!

[iwwtf_az]

does transferring an ancillary just mean to switch the governor? or can you actually transfer the ancillary to another family member? can't you do something like this with tutors?

[Bootsiuv]

You can transfer most ancillaries (some are special, like family retainer, and can't be transferred)between family members.

I assume these titles will be freely transferable as well.

Note that some ancillaries won't work together....

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Great stuff!

Few questions:

1. Will puppet rulers be able to get this ancillary if you only have a puppet ruler in the appropriate province?
2. Are there only posts available for regions which the Romans conquered historically, or will you become a Governor of Arabia or whatever if you happen to conquer that part of the world?
3. Does being Governor of Rome/Italy give any additional bonuses/is it different in any way to the other positions?
4. If leaving the area you are governing removes the bonuses, have you made the bonuses go away for those "You have earnt the respect of the Lusotannan" etc. traits when you leave the area that they should be effective in?
5. How come you can stay in a settlement without doing anything when your FM dies and the Governor Ancillary will be passed on, but you have to destroy and rebuild the Type IV Government in order to get a new puppet ruler when the old puppet ruler dies?
6. Will any Romans get unique portraits at the start of the game?

Cheers!

1- I don't believe so. Type4 represent allied territories with Rome-friendly puppets. They are not officially part of the Roman Empire.
2- Actually, there only seem to be the provinces for about Caesar's time. There was a map that I believe was previewed, I'll try to find it...
EDIT: Whether or not it was previewed, here it is (I don't know if that is the final version):
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4- The game can tell if you are in a certain city or not, but not if you are in a territory or not. Certain traits are given/taken away when you end a turn in a city, not province. For example, you have a general in Britain. He marches all the way to the Sahara without stopping in any city. He will still have winter restrictions in winter, even in the desert, because the game can only tell that the last city he was in was in Britain.
5- Granting an ancillary and spawning a general are two different things. Plus, if a puppet ruler spawned everytime the last one died, you would be permenently stuck with a Type4.
6- No.

[Zaknafien]

Yep, that map was an early conceptual version, and some changes have been made. In the next update, I plan to create "provinces" for some other Roman provinces up to the time of Augustus and beyond though.

[I Am Herenow]

By "next update", do you mean 1.1 (or whatever)?

Also, wouldn't it make sense extending the Ancillaries to cover the whole EB map, as the Romans would surely have continued appointing people to govern conquered areas, no matter how far they expanded.

[Zaknafien]

Alas, at EB we dont dip into fantasy..

[I Am Herenow]

I understand that, but didn't you say somewhere that you want to let history develop historically, rather than on-rails? Because surely it's a reasonable enough supposition that the Romans would have continued their method of assimilation and government of newly acquired provinces if it had proven to be successful in the past?

[Foot]

I understand that, but didn't you say somewhere that you want to let history develop historically, rather than on-rails? Because surely it's a reasonable enough supposition that the Romans would have continued their method of assimilation and government of newly acquired provinces if it had proven to be successful in the past?

By that logic they would be able to recruit legions in every part of the map and build Type IIs everywhere as well.

Foot

[I Am Herenow]

I thought the point of Type I and Type II zones was to represent over how great an area a faction could have realistically had direct (or "centralised", if you will) control? Do the limitations of the Roman Governor Ancillary system suggest, then, that the Romans would have "run out" of Roman people to govern their provinces, had their empire gone beyond a certain size, and would have had to resort to client kingdoms?

[alatar]

EB will be taking up more of my time now, it's taken over 2 months to get to 200 BC as Romanai.
Well atleast my general knowedgle of classical history is great now

[Ludens]

I have a question about Roman traits, when my Roman generals come of age I send them off with a more experienced general for 10 years to simulate the military service needed for a political career but they always stay as "green" as they aren't actually in command of the army despite the fact they often have a lot of battles under their belt. Is this going to change in the new build or are there hardcoded problems stopping it?

The problem is there is no way for the trait system to detect whether a particular character is present in a battle when he is not in command. Hence he does not gain experience from it. So it's not going to change, unfortunatly.

[Bootsiuv]

[BozosLiveHere]

The problem is there is no way for the trait system to detect whether a particular character is present in a battle when he is not in command. Hence he does not gain experience from it. So it's not going to change, unfortunatly.

Working on it, but it's for EB2 only.