I post here due to lyrical content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dRgYd5Mxs0
Deep stuff. Best I heard in a while gets to thumbs up
This is real Rap
I post here due to lyrical content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dRgYd5Mxs0
Deep stuff. Best I heard in a while gets to thumbs up
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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wow the lyrics really made me think.
"I thought CA was unarmed? Unless he got some samurai swords or something... I only got some rocks and some sticks." Shlin in BR realizing he has no weapons what so ever.
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The editing sucks IMO. The music just doesn't go with the rap.
Sad story though.
Overall effect: the (in this song background piano) melody is now ruined forever for me because of association with the whole rape-his-mom thing.
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Dont watch the video just listennOriginally Posted by AntiochusIII
The editing sucks IMO. The music just doesn't go with the rap.
Sad story though.
Overall effect: the (in this song background piano) melody is now ruined forever for me because of association with the whole rape-his-mom thing.
becuase you aint real hood
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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Hmmmm...my mind is blown away. I can't even say anything meaningful or lest invoke the wrath of the dude who wrote this.My Respects...
Through the ages every weapon has evolved from two basic design philosophies, either a rock or a sharp pointy stick.
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Jesus...
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Is there a way to get the lyrics without having to listen to rap/hip-hop? My arm twitches when I hear such music....
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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This is genuine
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HoreTore here, lyrics via Google.
I beg to differ, its all narrative until the last stanza, and even then it is not exactly enlightening. It's just a disturbing story, that briefly offers insight into the harsh realities of "ghetto" life and closes with a "clever" yet clichéd resolution. It is however better than the usual crap that rappers usually talk about, e.g. their hummers and hos etcetera. But, if you want something truly deep, read a Robert Frost poem, or a T.S. Eliot poem, or an Alexander Pope poem, hell listen to some Pink Floyd, I can pick out plenty songs with much greater depth in their lyrics.
Note this is simply my meagre and humble opinion, and I hope that it didn't sound aggressive.
Last edited by naut; 10-09-2007 at 09:58.
#Hillary4prism
BD:TW
Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra
Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts
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It's a sad story.
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
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Yeah, heard this one before. Great song, great artist. His other songs (that I've heard) are a little bit different though. They're a little bit more... political. Like "The 4th Branch", "Bin Laden", "The Poverty of Philosophy" etc. Good stuff, that too - and I usually don't listen to rap.
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I liked it.
But I feel the tendancy to measure the quality of a song by it's "depth" is misguided. It's one way to have quality, but a song with trivial lyrics and a good melody/beat is quality song and I would choose to listen to it over this one 95% of the time.
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Not impressed. Sounds like every Bronx/Queens resident who has dreams.
Ja mata, TosaInu. You will forever be remembered.
Proud
Been to:
Swords Made of Letters - 1938. The war is looming in France - and Alexandre Reythier does not have much time left to protect his country. A novel set before the war.
A Painted Shield of Honour - 1313. Templar Knights in France are in grave danger. Can they be saved?
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Maybe this is true, but at least Immortal Technique is speaking out against the shallow materialism, and promise of easy wealth so prominent among poor blacks (and whites) today, which is not something that many rappers are willing to do.
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Well I AM impressed. I know nothing about what they talk about when you accidently hit a drumcomputer but there is a real message here, and I like the angel analogy, could be better, I get the falling but not the being angel part
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It's not deep, it merely shows the naivity of people.
Edit: Though I must admit he really got his point through.
Last edited by Viking; 10-09-2007 at 18:39.
Runes for good luck:
[1 - exp(i*2π)]^-1
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Rap and rap-getto-culture can go to hell.
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Technique's one of the most skilled MC's out there. Also one of the most aggressive, I might add, but that's part of what makes him so awesome. He combined the full-frontal aggression of Jedi Mind Tricks with a lyrical finesse which isn't often heard in rap, and a story-telling skill thar rivals those of Slick Rick and Rakim themselves; for some of his finest work you should check out his track Dominant Species, or if the aggression is bothering you, You Never Know.
Underground rappers like Technique, Cannibal Ox and others just blow poppy morons like 50 Cent clear out of the water. If you're comparing this to that then you need to go listen again and make sure to pay attention this time. This ain't no crystallized pop version of so-called degenerate "gangsta" culture at all. Also, you haven't heard the diss that's included after the track on the album itself -- if anything that's even better than the story he tells (and a whole lot more offensive and aggressive too, I might add).
Also guys, this is pretty old. 2001... don't treat it as a massive novelty now
Last edited by The Wizard; 10-09-2007 at 19:33.
"It ain't where you're from / it's where you're at."
Eric B. & Rakim, I Know You Got Soul
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And this is Peja
probably best rap artist in Poland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbX-MbCtsXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7i6Xbp-nb8
and this is nice song
official song of polish hooligans and unofficial song of...
polish police
John Thomas Gross - liar who want put on Poles responsibility for impassivity of American Jews during holocaust
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Oh my goodness. What obscene drivel that was!!!
I don't even know what the point of this thread is supposed to be?!
I listened to that crap linked to in the OP to see what all the posters here are going on about, since no one provided any details in this thread of what it's about.
It links to a 7 minute rap song which ends with an incest/gang rape and murder of a woman, which the rapper himself states that he participated in. Hands-down the most obscene, perverse, disgusting "song" I'd ever had the great misfortune of being subjected to.
If there was ever a rock-solid argument for why free speech must be limited, then that "song" would be the ideal poster child for why free speech must be limited.
Next time someone makes a thread about a song about incest/gang rape and murder or otherwise obscene content, please put warnings about that in the OP rather than just say "This is deep!" and linking to the crap as if it's a decent thing to listen to/watch/read/whatnot.
Last edited by Navaros; 10-09-2007 at 23:09.
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If you are so offende by the content Nav then you had better get hold of that bible you say you read and throw it on the fire because it is disgusting some of the rape murder andincest stuff written in there
Clearly Nav didn't understand any of the lyrics
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I have to agree with Tribes, you obviously didn't get what the rap was about Nav.
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
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I think I "got it" pretty well.
The rapper thinks that because some Angels fell from Heaven according to the Bible, he too is a fallen Angel like them. Therefore in his own mind, this justifies him and his friends participating in incest/gang rape and murder as "not so bad".
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Navaros he's trying to put a message out, he didn't actually take part of it, it was just the song he wrote, in the interview he said he wanted to show being hardcore isn't that simple, and also he's trying to put the message out that gangs and stuff like that isn't cool at all, he just had to distrubute the message in a more disturbing way, see how many people he got to think about it and really reflect about it, that was what he was aiming for.
"I thought CA was unarmed? Unless he got some samurai swords or something... I only got some rocks and some sticks." Shlin in BR realizing he has no weapons what so ever.
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What little there is to actually 'get', I don't think you did.
"The facts of history cannot be purely objective, since they become facts of history only in virtue of the significance attached to them by the historian." E.H. Carr
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I think I "got it" pretty well.
really?????The rapper thinks that because some Angels fell from Heaven according to the Bible, he too is a fallen Angel like them. Therefore in his own mind, this justifies him and his friends participating in incest/gang rape and murder as "not so bad".
So you don't get it at all then
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Well dude, if "rape, being gangsta and other assorted criminal behavior is bad" is a message you find obscene, then you are a rather odd individual.
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The Bible does get a little hazy on whether they support rape and pillage or not... maybe thats why 'Da OG lifestyle is so prominent in some places.
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LOL, in the time here that this "[-----]", as he so elequantly said about 20 times in the song, wrote this crap he could have filled out atleat two applications for employment. I just know that my tax dollar is going to him, the mutiple females he's banging, allowing with the 12 or so crack addicted babies he's "fathered". Yippee, maybe next week he can rap about Katrina and put it on youtube with the laptop he probably stole. But, your are right, this is definitely real rap and definitely what the mindset leds too.
Last edited by KukriKhan; 10-10-2007 at 15:06.
RIP Tosa
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Yeah, down with black artists finding their own way out of poverty by making their money off their music and setting up their own underground music production company. Boo, self empowerment!
For the record, I don't like the song. Its a cliched story with a simplistic moral message wrapped in rather predictable and simple lyrics. But I don't see it representing anything worse than poor music, and applaud the attempt at distancing himself from gangster culture.
"The facts of history cannot be purely objective, since they become facts of history only in virtue of the significance attached to them by the historian." E.H. Carr
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